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No idea why I was being downvoted.

My entire point was that any serving member of Congress ever representing "their country" and that country being anything OTHER than the United States is a disgusting traitor and should not be serving the United States.

Honestly, I don't know how/why any of you thought I was defending her or taking her side. I was pointing out the insanity of someone like her "serving" in the United States Congress when she's obviously not anything close to being truly American and probably doesn't know the first thing about our history and shouldn't have even been allowed to have become an American citizen much less run for office (and win).

Honestly you guys... :usa:

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Ilhan Omar is not an American in any meaningful sense
That was entirely my point - she isn't an American so it's ridiculous for her to be representing any other country other than the United States.
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incorrectly describing Mamdani’s political identification, though that nuance is unlikely to matter to voters.
Kindly go get yourself fricked MSNBC. Traitors and communist sympathizers.
"In her country"? I'm assuming you mean the United States, in which, yes, I am not aware that she has spoken about the violence against Christians in the USA.

If you mean some country other than the United States of America then there is something incredibly wrong with our government...

EDIT: For frick's sake, y'all. Read my comment further below. I hate the bitch and was not defending her. My entire point was how stupid it is that someone like her is supposedly representing the US when she's obviously not. :lol:
I agree 100% with everything you just said HouseMom. So tired of the excuses so many people make for other's terrible, selfish and entitled behavior.
Get rid of ALL welfare, SNAP, EBT, all of it at both the state and federal levels. . Government should never be responsible for providing essentials to people - that was never the mandate or responsibility of government.

Also, it'd sure be nice for our taxes to be decreased to reflect that the taxpayers aren't supporting people any longer. That way when the bleeding heart liberals inevitably bitch about how "vile" it is that the gubmint isn't paying for people's basic needs any longer, anyone who wants to give their own money to help others are free to do so; they can do what they wish with their money.

But don't require me to pay a damn penny to help someone I don't want to help. Screw collectivism. I promise that not a single American would starve due to this change - anyone saying otherwise are simply lying and being fear mongerers. And don't scold me about not being a "Christian" for doing this - give me a break - churches are still the largest organizations running food banks even today from what I understand.
Which is why OpenAI and the other AI companies are only pushing regulations on AI restrictions now.... after they've already built what they wanted. Of course it's to just make it more difficult for competition to them - if they honestly cared about ethics and AI they would have ceased all of their work on it as soon as they became "ethical" and gone out of their way to prevent anyone else from further developing it. Hypocrites one and all.
There are some legitimately useful purposes for AI, such as using them as tools for the mass analysis of data to find patterns, trends, and insights that would be difficult, if not actually impossible for any human - or any group of humans - to ever do. So its usefulness as a data analysis tool is almost unsurpassed.

But, I see no other real use for large language model "AI's" for any other particularly useful purpose other than being used to churn out "AI slop" memes and I think it has (and will continue) to do more harm than good overall to society.

And don't get me started on the insanity of creating AGI ("Artificial General Intelligence" aka HAL 9000 or Skynet). If we created a sentient intelligence as smart as or smarter than a human then we will be well and truly screwed as a species sooner versus later. (For those not in the know, as soon as we create something intelligent enough to start recursively designing smarter variants of itself, it will become exponentially more intelligent than us very quickly and we may find ourselves so outsmarted by it that we couldn't even just shut it down as we'd be outmaneuvered at every turn.).

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In a perfect world we would slam the brakes on the whole thing. Unfortunately we are too deep into a corporate and international AI arms race and none of these corporations or nations can afford to hit the brakes.
Yep! we are dumb.
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My cousin has polio. He's in his 60s. He has no use of his legs. In my life, I've have never known him to not have a job. He is probably at work right now, as I type this.


Bless him! And, yes, I'd be more than happy for someone like him to get free EBT/SNAP/welfare/whatever help for the rest of his life if he ended up ever reaching a point where his health prevented him from continuing to work. If he's worked most or all of his life then he deserves it. That's what society should be doing and that was supposed to be the benefit of welfare and assistance - to help people who are temporarily down on their luck to get back onto their feet, and to help people who, due to absolutely no fault of their own (or even certain forgivable dumb mistakes that any of us could have made) have lost the ability to care for themselves but do what they can. And also the elderly, who have worked their entire lives but are too old to really do much anymore. THOSE are the people we should be helping and I'd be proud to help.

But NEVER able-bodied entitled assholes who *could* work but are just too damn lazy to do so. Screw them! I have zero sympathy for them and do not care if they literally starved to death. And I know they wouldn't because there is a TON of free food out there and plenty of charities and food banks to provide free food.

These people are just lazy, incompentent, dumb, and useless. We should not be supporting them and their terrible behavior and habits. AT ALL.
Even though this is still good news you can still color me disappointed. Started reading the title of this thread and was autocompleting it in my head as "... must work 80 hours per" and I skipped ahead mentally to assume "a week ? RIGHT ON!!!" but then was absolutely stunned that it was only 80 hours "per month". WTF?

I've worked 80 hours A WEEK at times in my life and these absolute useless... lazy... entitled sacks of shite just can't be bothered to even work 80 hours in a MONTH... to get paid for their work AND to still get their free EBT?!?!? I work at least 40 hours a week and almost every weekend so where's my free fricking EBT you assholes!

To Hell with these people! STOP ALL EBT and all welfare for everyone except actual veterans (or other deserving and productive members of society) IMMEDIATELY. What the hell are we doing supporting worthless leeches like this?
I just refuse to believe that cows make up 6% of the global emission of CO2. Even if it is true, who gives a shite? If it's such a big concerning issue then why are currently entering a new ice age? Why aren't they worried about how much pollution the large cargo container ships make that bring all of our cheap crap from China? My understanding is just a dozen of those ships cause as much pollution per year as all passenger cars and trucks combined.

But no, the rich fricks never talk about ways to bring manufacturing back to the US or to get Americans to become less materialistic and hoarding tons of cheap crappy plastic junk; naw, let's just get people to eat less beef!

What a crock of absolute bullshite. I don't know anyone who still believes any of this crap anymore...
frick Google/Alphabet and frick YouTube. They in effect castrated my son's YT channel for some BS but yet there's fricking ISIS training and recruitment videos up on YT. My son even pointed that out to them and they changed nothing.

frick them.
"It wasn't intended to be kind or respectful." Oh damn! That was too funny!!!!! Piers Morgan is not my favorite, but holy shite that was hilarious! Thank you Piers!!!!!

re: Secession: It Must be Discussed

Posted by mwrawls on 9/18/25 at 10:53 pm to
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Yeah, but many on the other side are outbreeding us. Whereas most of us wait until we're in a stable relationship and can finally afford kids, our counterparts pop out kids like a vegas slot paying off - and we foot the bill!
Getting rid of ALL welfare at ALL levels (Federal and state level) would fix this problem. And no, I'm not talking about any responsibility to deserving people like vets, et al. I'm saying just remove it all from the leeches.
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No. The answer is to get back to how the country was intended to operate……as a collection of individual states. We need to shift more power back to the states and gut the federal government. We still have enough common interest to hold together a union of states and then the individual states can be as liberal or conservative as they want. Just make sure you are living in a state that shares your values.


Yes, this 100%. Just severely reign in the federal government and get it back to what it should have simply remained. Also, repeal the 17th Amendment. There are probably other Amendments that should also be repealed but I won't mention any of them here...

We also needs to remove all welfare, kick out 99% of H1B visa holders, etc.
These people are *really* testing my moral bounds.
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And the 2nd was never about protection from our own Executive branch. That was supposed to be the other 2 branches.
Oh really now?

(from LINK just from a quick search but I am familiar with all of these quotes from other sources)

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Stephens Smith, son-in-law of John Adams, December 20, 1787

"To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

"...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone..."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
- Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

"[I]f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
- Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789
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Germany just assassinated 7 members of the AfD. So not shocked this is their stance.
Last I saw (yesterday) the number was up to 16.
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My only problem is deciding which one to carry on any given day.
That's actually a great problem to have!
They are a weak (and thus weak minded) people. who have become isolated from society due to an almost complete destruction of the family and community, not having any understanding of actual history or philosophy (and actually believing in an alternate fabrication) resulting in a complete separation of themselves with God or even themselves. This makes them highly susceptible to being brainwashed by the destructive Marxist ideologies endlessly espoused by "trustworthy" public and private institutions (universities, MSM, government agencies, et al). Once successfully separated from any and all alternative sources that could offer or model positive human behavior and feedback, they are corralled into a positive feedback loop of these false narratives through social media echo chambers, the only role models being provided to them being others of their own kind and the few so-called "successful" politicians, professors, and actors who have either been co-opted by this same program or are compensated handsomely by those who profit privately from the ensuing chaos.

All of this fueled by drugs and medications designed to simply hide their symptoms but at the same time making them even more suggestive to the dangerous programming and conditioning. Their every indulgence and recikless suicidal and self-destructive desire and degeneracy not only tolerated but actively encouraged to ultimately turn each and every one of them into the perfect consumer and active participant slave in any and every whim of the people pulling the strings of society.

It is a terrible thing that so many of them do not even know that their behavior leads them to make awful life decisions that create their own misery and suffering that will culminate most likely in an early death either through suicide or due to complications from one of their many hedonistic overindulgences. They fail to realize that they themselves are the source of their own misery, fear, and despondency.

And the very worst thing of all is that not only do they have no idea that they are actually committing evil but that they actually believe deep down inside that they are instead doing good.
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Irony here of course is that she might sacrifice her career exercising 1A rights.
With even further irony being that the 2A protects the 1A.