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Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:16 am to jonnyanony
quote:We (NATO) attacked their European allies
You think we're going to attack Russia?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:16 am to jonnyanony
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Why should it do anything?
Many many countries have the militaries of other countries on their border.
South Korea immediately comes to mind.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:18 am to AFATiger
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Remember, the Russian and Chinese governments will lie to your face in an emotional and official capacity.
Just them?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:18 am to AFATiger
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They agreed to defend us
The day the United States depends on the likes of Bulgaria, Estonia, Luxembourg, and Slovakia to defend us, is the day the United States ceases to exist.
There is no “they will defend us” scenario. There are only “we defend them” scenarios.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 6:19 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:20 am to AFATiger
quote:It is a fact. How it is perceived by Russia is being debated. And until you mention all of the factors that led up to this conflict you would be well served to sit silently and learn.
“NATO Expansion” is Russian propaganda
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:22 am to baconwaffle
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it appears the PT has, after a brief confusion, returned to their pro-Russian foxholes.
The truth is now “pro-Russian?”
You do realize that Putin and Russia can be correctly vilified for invading a sovereign nation while not ignoring the history of the region prior to said invasion...don’t you?
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baconwaffle
Nevermind - continue with your goose-stepping.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:27 am to AFATiger
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:31 am to C
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What should Russia do in response to growing military at its border?
Why is your argument framed like this is 1850 and the King of Western Europe is a threat to invade Russia?
This is the post-Cold War era of international peace. Only a psychopath would be worried about a western nation invading...unless you're in the ME or involved in terrorism/genocide
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 6:32 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:36 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Perhaps the loss of 23 million souls during the last western nation's invasion has left them psychopathic.
Only a psychopath would be worried about a western nation invading...
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:37 am to jimmy the leg
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You do realize that Putin and Russia can be correctly vilified for invading a sovereign nation while not ignoring the history of the region prior to said invasion...don’t you?
The problem is that the weight given to the "the history of the region prior to said invasion" by the "kind of/sort of pro-Russian" folks on this board is far too much, just like the alleged justifications are given far too much respect.
It would be like trying to defend a schizophrenic person who killed another b/c the killer saw the victim as a rabid unicorn. I mean that's a justification, and we can't ignore how the killer perceived the situation, right?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:38 am to AFATiger
NATO existed to defend against the Soviet Union.
With the Soviet Union dissolved, what purpose did NATO have?
With the Soviet Union dissolved, what purpose did NATO have?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:38 am to AFATiger
Remember that our own government will lie to your face.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:40 am to AFATiger
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Remember, the Russian and Chinese governments will lie to your face in an emotional and official capacity.
Our government is trying to stop trucking because pollution is racist.
Our government admitted to lying about the vaccine.
Our government lied about wmd.
Our politicians only know how to lie.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 6:41 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:41 am to NC_Tigah
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Perhaps the loss of 23 million souls during the last western nation's invasion has left them psychopathic.
You ignored the sentence just preceding the one you quoted.
Since WWII, what is the history of invasion by countries now apart of NATO without UN approval?
We have the US in Iraq, 2003. What else?
This is also ignoring the nuke factor. If NK can't be taken over b/c they have nukes, then it's even more irrational to be worried. I mean hell, Russia is committing illegal invasions right now and the world is neutered b/c of one reason: nukes.
Russia's recent insanity has both proven (1) why Eastern Europe needs NATO and (2) how they have no rational justification whatsoever. It's an amazing self-fulfilling prophecy.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:48 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No.
It would be like trying to defend a schizophrenic person who killed another b/c the killer saw the victim as a rabid unicorn. I mean that's a justification, and we can't ignore how the killer perceived the situation, right?
It would be like knowing that schizophrenic person would kill his girlfriend if he caught her dating you. He's made that known to you many times. You don't particularly like the girl, but you take her on a date ... just to see what'll happen. She gets killed. When her parents accuse you of provocation, you shrug and say, meh, too bad, so sad, but I had every right to ask her out.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:51 am to AFATiger
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Don’t fall for that lie. NATO did not expand. Countries in Eastern Europe willingly decided to apply to join to be a part of NATO. They agreed to defend us and vice versa, with a unanimous vote of all current members countries.
Lol this is amazing.
I like when people pretend the USA couldn’t have prevented NATO expansion or foreseen that it would cause problems in Eastern Europe/former USSR.
That’s a real knee-slapper.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:53 am to AFATiger
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AFATiger
So don’t believe your lying eyes! Sounds like you are the king of the Globalist propaganda machine!
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:02 am to NC_Tigah
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It would be like knowing that schizophrenic person would kill his girlfriend if he caught her dating you. He's made that known to you many times. You don't particularly like the girl, but you take her on a date ... just to see what'll happen. She gets killed.
100% on the schizophrenic person. Do you structure your life around the unreasonable demands of the insane?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:02 am to TrueTiger
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With the Soviet Union dissolved, what purpose did NATO have?
The nidus of the Soviet Union is still present and in some of its leaders, still has a desire to reunite. 
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