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re: Question for the biggest Trump supporters out there - Iran War
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:33 am to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:33 am to Bunk Moreland
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By this standard, no administration can ever be criticized for anything.
Of course, that's false, for at least two reasons.
Given enough time, this administration may be able to be validly criticized for this action. But that's probably a few years down the line.
The point is that right now, you're making a judgement when you have maybe 30% of the relevant information. It takes time for accurate information to come out with regard to foreign conflicts. Years, usually. And even then there will always be some percentage of classified information that you will likely never have.
Secondly, many things can be criticized on the principle of the action alone. I know populists don't understand that because they mock principles, but logical people can look at the government doing something like passing a law that bans people of a certain age group from buying or using tobacco products and know that it violates the principle of individual freedom on its face...no one has to wait for the results or for more information.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 7:35 am
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:38 am to DTRooster
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:46 am to Bunk Moreland
What does criticizing in the middle of a something get you? Not a damn thing but saying ‘I told you so’, maybe. Or saying ‘Damn, ain’t I the dimbass’ with egg hanging off your face when it ends.
Bitches bitch and come up with a million reasons to justify their bitchin. That’s just the way of things, carry on
Bitches bitch and come up with a million reasons to justify their bitchin. That’s just the way of things, carry on
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:52 am to idlewatcher
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3-4 months ago, statements like this would be DV’ed into oblivion Now the majority agree
It’s not just on this message board. I talk to people every day that voted for him who are irritated
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:54 am to AndyCBR
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I believe a good outcome in Iran would require regime change and I'm not sure we can force that without a ground war, by someone.
"By someone"
There is only one military that is even remotely capable of potentially pulling that off. The United State of America's
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:01 am to Bunk Moreland
First step, was USAID, and taking down some of the rot with DOGE.
(Not enough, but we didn't want to start a severe downturn with all of that capital getting removed from the system.)
Next, Venezuela.
(ie Cuba)
Strafing drug runners in the Gulf, Pacific coast.
Then Iran. Still ongoing, but price of oil is settled down (for now), and a lot of the Arabian Peninsula is now aligned more with US than Iran.
Still wonder is if MBS has promised Iran to help with nuclear bomb after SA has made a deal with US for the bomb.
That said, now is the time to deal with the markets,
We are now solidly in bed with BOJ.
BOJ bond market is the next battlefield for new world.
US vs Euro/Globalists.
(Not enough, but we didn't want to start a severe downturn with all of that capital getting removed from the system.)
Next, Venezuela.
(ie Cuba)
Strafing drug runners in the Gulf, Pacific coast.
Then Iran. Still ongoing, but price of oil is settled down (for now), and a lot of the Arabian Peninsula is now aligned more with US than Iran.
Still wonder is if MBS has promised Iran to help with nuclear bomb after SA has made a deal with US for the bomb.
That said, now is the time to deal with the markets,
We are now solidly in bed with BOJ.
BOJ bond market is the next battlefield for new world.
US vs Euro/Globalists.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:32 am to riccoar
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Kokinda dropping FACTS
Well at least she stopped trying to tell us that the Iran War was about ending the reign of the British Empire.
I mean,,,once you say stuff that stupid, you should be banished forever from commentary.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:41 am to LSUFanHouston
Iran was a retribution strike because of Oct 7. We can say it was about nukes, but we all know it was to poke a bunch of eyes in Iran.
The other incentive is to use up our stockpiles of weapons so we can make more for our own defense and to sell to our allies now that they see what we can do.
We also will establish new trade deals/routes as a result of the Iran war. It's expensive, but it will pay off in the long run.
Regime change wasn't the goal as much as regime compliance.
The other incentive is to use up our stockpiles of weapons so we can make more for our own defense and to sell to our allies now that they see what we can do.
We also will establish new trade deals/routes as a result of the Iran war. It's expensive, but it will pay off in the long run.
Regime change wasn't the goal as much as regime compliance.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:32 am to joshnorris14
quote:
"By someone"
There is only one military that is even remotely capable of potentially pulling that off. The United State of America's
That's debateable, and not really much of a talking point as I don't believe the will is there to make that happen anyway.
I wouldn't call what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan a rousing success.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:47 am to AndyCBR
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I wouldn't call what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan a rousing success.
From the standpoint of toppling a regime, Iraq was certainly successful (Afghanistan was not, but also not really relevant to Iran).
But if we are not capable of it, nobody else is. Saudi Arabia can't even defeat Houthi Militia groups in their direct vicinity. Israel does not have the requisite population to perform a ground campaign. Who else would we depend on? Egypt? Turkey?
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:50 am to SlidellCajun
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I will still not believe him.
After all the "no new wars" bullshite, Trump could give citizenship to all 12,000,000 of the illegals Biden let in, and there are people on this board who still would speak no ill of him.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:51 am to LSUFanHouston
What war?
You mean the Hormuz blockade?
I'm not aware of any war.
You mean the Hormuz blockade?
I'm not aware of any war.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:53 am to John somers
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What war?
You mean the Hormuz blockade?
I'm not aware of any war.
Do you not consider a country consistently bombing US military bases acts of war?
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:59 am to Ricardo
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Iran was a retribution strike because of Oct 7.
I don't remember the United States being attacked on October 7th
Posted on 8/4/26 at 3:20 pm to 2 Jugs
2 jugs- trump’s not perfect. Deal with it. stop being a Trumpanican
Posted on 8/4/26 at 3:58 pm to SlidellCajun
Stop being a crybaby.
Think about where this country would be if not for him.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 7:49 am to 2 Jugs
You clearly get triggered when anything negative is said about Trump
Get over it
#Trumpanican
Get over it
#Trumpanican
Posted on 8/5/26 at 8:39 am to LSUFanHouston
I’m not a huge Trump fan. I do support keeping Muslims away from Nuclear Weapons though. I think we’ve been fighting far too humanely. We need to hit all of their infrastructure and cause as much internal strife as possible.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 8:41 am to LSUFanHouston
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Where do you think this ends up at year end
I think at year’s end we’ll still be at Trump saying we’re close to a deal and Iran saying they don’t know what he’s talking about.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 8:53 am to Fat Bastard
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we must over react like a teen girl and cry and bitch and ignore all the good
You told us re-electing Biden or Kamala would give us:
War with Iran
High gasoline prices
High grocery prices
inflation
High mortgage rates
We have all that under Trump currently and here you are trying to defend it and use mental gymnastics to try and deflect from it. Just own it and move on to calling people childish names.
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