BamaGradinTn

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People probably do it to avoid the inevitable "you vote for Kamala" posts as a response

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Of course. They refuse to grasp the very real possibility that both Trump and Kamala can be idiots at the same time and for different reasons.

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But, then history has shown that other institutions have flaws populated by flawed men, whether thar be the Roman Senate, British Parliament or our own Congress.

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And you're talking abut my "utter ignorance"??? When have we Christians ever remotely suggested that our Congress is infallible in the eyes of God? In your utterly ignorant response, this is perhaps your dumbest point.

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You do realize that the Pope is the Bishop of Rome.
So by your own words the Bible does provide for him, in fact, you could say that in reality, the first Pope was James in Jerusalem since all things flowed through him in the beginning. Paul doesn't go to see Peter, primarily, he goes to see and speak with James. There's always been a notion of hierarchy in the Church.

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Tell you what...show me where in the Bible it says that (a) there is a Pope, and (b) there is a "Bishop of Rome", then you can come back and engage in an intelligent conversation.

Keep in mind that Catholic tradition counts for nothing in this conversation. The Bible teaches that it is all sufficient. II Tim. 3:16..." That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

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It becomes a closed matter when the Pope speaks ex cathedra or "from the Chair" and the Pope has done that only 2 X.

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Again, you demonstrate the nonsense of Catholic teaching. Who, pray tell, gets to decide when the Pope gets to speak ex cathedra? Why, the Pope, of course!!

By the way...one of those two ex cathedra statements that you mentioned? The claim that Mary ascended into Heaven without dying. Again, something that is not mentioned in the Bible and that there is zero evidence for...yet when the Pope says "I'm speaking ex cathedra here, so it has to be true" all Christianty must believe him. It's pure nonsense and fantasy.

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Christ gives Peter a unique role, the keys, the authority to bind and loose, and the task of strengthening the brethren.

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Protestants believe that the rock, referred to in the scripture, was the confession itself, not Peter. If he had meant Peter, he would have said "Upon YOU I will build my church." He didn't say that, though, did he? Also, Paul calling Peter out for his hypocrisy and refusing to eat with Gentiles throws water on the notion that Peter had some special role, like what you give your Pope, and certainly blows the concept of papal infallibility out of the water. Actually, one could argue that Paul ultimately had greater influence than Peter. Also, the idea that one Pope can issue a statement on an issue and a later Pope might go in different direction again, shoots down the notion of papal infallibility.

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Second, saying the papacy isn’t biblical doesn’t really hold up. Christ gives Peter a unique role...

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The papacy isn't Biblical, because nowhere in the Bible is this role mentioned. In contrast, the Bible mentions elders and deacons. Those roles are defined.

Finally, in addition to all the above, Pope Urban II completely destroys your argument. What "moral teaching" did he apply when he pushed the first Crusade, when 100,000 died? In fact, his words sound like something an Islamic mullah would say today, minus the seventy-two virgins:

"All who die by the way, whether by land or by sea, or in battle against the pagans, shall have immediate remission of sins. This I grant them through the power of God with which I am invested."

This is wrong on so may levels. But just for starters, multiple passages in the Bible teach that only God can forgive sins. Yet here is the Pope claiming to have that power.

Eugene III did the same thing with the Second Crusade...offering indulgences to those who fought.

The notion of a Pope is utterly antithetical to Biblical teaching. To claim otherwise, if you are honest with yourself, you have to square your beliefs with Urban II's words and actions. Because remember...you believe he was infallible. He not only sent people off to die in war to control the Holy Lands, he also promised them forgiveness of sins if they did. There is nothing even remotely Biblical about that.

The fact that those events happened a thousand years ago makes them no less relevant. If Urban and Eugene were not Biblical in these practices, the entire concept of a papacy now and forever is not Biblical as well.

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How many times in your life have you bought something in Yuan? They do as we say.

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China owns over $760 billion in U.S. Treasury securities. I don't think they paid for them in yuan. :lol:

When you phrase the poll questions like that, most Americans are going to support. It's also very possible that many Americans had the attitude that they didn't like the idea of going to war, but once in the war, they want to win.

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Completing the largest genocide in world history takes time,

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If the Israelis are actually trying to commit genocide, they literally are the worst at committing genocide in the history of genocide.

Aside from the Holocaust, try to find a couple of functioning brain cells to rub together and read about the Tutsi genocide committed by the Hutus in 1994. Over 500,000 in 100 days. I know you weren't alive back then, but being young is no excuse for being fricking stupid.

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And yet, the majority of posters on this board consider him to be a traitor or a paid asset of the left.

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Majority of posters on this board??? The majority of posters on this board have never even heard of him because they never pay any attention to Alex Jones.

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We need some party purity. Having...leaders whose personal lives run counter to Christian beliefs running the party is how you end up with a party that doesnt stand for much,

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If you truly believed this, you wouldn't support a guy who paid off a porn star.

Where does grabbing women by the pussy fit into those Christian beliefs.

I didn't support Trump because of some fantasy that he lives his personal life based on Christian beliefs. And you didn't, either.

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After Carter made a deal to get the hostages back from Iran Reagan’s campaign made a better offer. The hostages were released minutes after Reagan was sworn in.

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Well, Reagan calling them prisoners of war may have also had something to do with that.

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Odd that her husband, the President, didn’t know she was going to do that until after the fact.

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I don't think it's odd at all. I think it exemplifies the fact that Melania does whatever the hell she wants. Good for her.

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There was no real risk until we started this war. That is the point.

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There has ALWAYS been risk. If you can't see that, there's no helping you.

My gripe with this war is that, once in it, Trump isn't keeping his foot on the gas until Iran unconditionally surrenders. No cease fire, No ten or fifteen or however the frick many points on a bullshite agreement. Unconditional surrender. Anything else leaves the door open for the crazies...backed by China and/or Russia...to start enriching uranium again in the future.