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re: Question for the biggest Trump supporters out there - Iran War
Posted on 8/3/26 at 6:54 pm to neverbefore
Posted on 8/3/26 at 6:54 pm to neverbefore
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Go jump off a bridge or something you'd get better results than continually bitching about something you obliviously can't comprehend.
LOL! Right. Trump has been promising an "imminent" deal for weeks, yet the goal post keeps moving. Why is that? Pointing that out isn't "bitching" it's pointing out the facts.
If you think the strategy is working, explain why. "Go jump off a bridge" isn't an argument; it's what people resort to when they don't have one.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 6:55 pm to CrystalPreserves
Good rant from Lt. Col here for about a minute -- when you start a conflict without a clear political end state, you're going to get mission creep.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 8/3/26 at 7:54 pm to AUTigerking
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None of us have high enough clearance to have an educated opinion on matters like this.
I don't have any clearance. But I sure am entitled to my educated opinion. Which is that this war is a disaster with no end in sight.
When it comes to not being educated enough to have an opinion, you're perfectly welcome to speak for yourself
Posted on 8/3/26 at 7:55 pm to No Colors
It's a silly argument. It suggests no foreign policy decisions can ever be questioned because we don't have enough clearance.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:05 pm to Powerman
Trump supporter...
Things began seemingly great but then the momentum stopped.
Just like every war in my lifetime there seems to be way too much hesitation.
War is won via dominance. Strength leads to peace.
Too much internal political sparring and division. America's strength and well being is no longer the priority.
I still have faith in Trump, nevertheless, I anticipate on a daily basis some sort of sign leading to victory.
Things began seemingly great but then the momentum stopped.
Just like every war in my lifetime there seems to be way too much hesitation.
War is won via dominance. Strength leads to peace.
Too much internal political sparring and division. America's strength and well being is no longer the priority.
I still have faith in Trump, nevertheless, I anticipate on a daily basis some sort of sign leading to victory.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
He is putting together a very complex plan involving all of our nations along with Israel. There is way more to this war than the United States just bombing them. I trust Trump as he is proving me wrong so many times. Only a hand you know the true facts and the facts about the plan that will end centuries of war and friction in the Middle East. So let it play out and if I’m wrong, I will be the first one to admit that he failed on this one issue. I would still support him because of the many many issues.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:18 pm to Nole Man
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LOL! Right. Trump has been promising an "imminent" deal for weeks, yet the goal post keeps moving. Why is that? Pointing that out isn't "bitching" it's pointing out the facts. If you think the strategy is working, explain why. "Go jump off a bridge" isn't an argument; it's what people resort to when they don't have one.
No he hasn’t. Trump says every single day that the Iranians are, “begging for a deal”. What does that mean? It means Trump is the one not willing to deal because the Iranians won’t give up the Urainium.
You fools only hear what you want to hear.
We are going to invade and all you fools will be taken by surprise when it happens.
We are going to get the urainium one way or another.
It took 5 and 1/2 months to build up troops for the first gulf war.
How many months have we been bombing Iran???
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:29 pm to Nole Man
This is the second obvious AI-generated comment I've seen from this account today. Stuff like this:
came straight from the LLM without even light editing.
(If anyone doubts me read the post history and contrast this with the posts where OP is actually writing in his own voice.)
It's worth noting that someone using AI to crank out comments is either significantly dumber than they want to seem, or posting with an agenda and asking AI to come up with reasons for it.
So in all likelihood you are indeed rooting for Trump to fail and using AI to spit out slop that makes you seem more reasonable than you are.
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That's not strategic ambiguity—it's strategic confusion.
came straight from the LLM without even light editing.
(If anyone doubts me read the post history and contrast this with the posts where OP is actually writing in his own voice.)
It's worth noting that someone using AI to crank out comments is either significantly dumber than they want to seem, or posting with an agenda and asking AI to come up with reasons for it.
So in all likelihood you are indeed rooting for Trump to fail and using AI to spit out slop that makes you seem more reasonable than you are.
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I'm not rooting for Trump to fail here—I want the U.S. to succeed. But I don't see a coherent Iran strategy.
If the objective was to destroy Iran's nuclear program, say whether that was accomplished. If the objective is negotiations, explain what concessions are being sought. If the objective is regime change, be honest that history shows that's a much larger and riskier undertaking than airstrikes.
Instead, the messaging has been all over the place: threats of overwhelming force, announcements of negotiations that Iran publicly disputes, then more military posturing. That's not strategic ambiguity—it's strategic confusion.
By year-end, I think there are three realistic possibilities:
1. A negotiated agreement that significantly limits Iran's nuclear program (best-case, but uncertain).
2. A prolonged cycle of proxy attacks, sanctions, and intermittent U.S./Israeli strikes without a decisive resolution (the outcome I'd currently consider most likely).
3. A broader regional conflict if diplomacy collapses or either side miscalculates.
I hope it's the first. Right now, though, the administration hasn't clearly explained what "success" actually looks like, and that's the biggest problem.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:38 pm to Powerman
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This should be obvious. People can't fathom that other people can dislike Biden and also criticize Trump. I don't see how that's a difficult concept but for some people it is.
It’s the bizarre partisan mindset that creates a polarizing outlook
You’re either this or that
When Biden makes some money off his power, it’s bad, but if Trump does it, the trumpanicans get in a tizzy when it’s pointed out
Making money off of the power of the office is wrong. I don’t care who is doing it
I didn’t vote for that; or more wars, or government buying private business, or higher tariffs, or higher inflation, or a massive unnecessary ballroom , or selling social media posts…
Sucks too because I support a strong border, America first, and pushing back on nato among other things but on a net basis, I’m disappointed in what Trump is doing.
More and more people I talk to say the same thing.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:05 pm to SlidellCajun
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I will still not believe him.
3-4 months ago, statements like this would be DV’ed into oblivion
Now the majority agree Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:17 pm to LSUFanHouston
I think it was a mistake…but we’re in it now. After listening to Vance I think the combined plan of pressure, negotiations and attacks will work..it’s just who knows how long it will take.
ETA: in hindsight I think that we squeeze them financially, work from the inside to create dissent and hit them if they step out of line is the better route. I don’t like killing their religious leader either. For every 1 Iranian that we hear wants “freedom” there’s probably 10 hardliners this pissed off.
And yes, I think he got convinced that this would result in regime change by the hawks and Israel which was bullshite.
ETA: in hindsight I think that we squeeze them financially, work from the inside to create dissent and hit them if they step out of line is the better route. I don’t like killing their religious leader either. For every 1 Iranian that we hear wants “freedom” there’s probably 10 hardliners this pissed off.
And yes, I think he got convinced that this would result in regime change by the hawks and Israel which was bullshite.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:22 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Those of you that are big time MAGA / Trump fans… how do you think he is doing with Iran? Is everything great, or is a change in strategy needed? Where do you think this ends up at year end?
They are just about at the find out stage.
If they continue Trump will set them back 600 years in September
You will Sky Scream about the humanitarian apocalypse but we will all move on.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:31 pm to CrystalPreserves
OOOOOHH! You done did it now! Yew one of them twinkle toe, freedom
hatin **** commies ain't ya?
Don't you know our lord and savior is gonna put on his doctors robe and
wave his arms over the Strait any second now ? He is going to praise
"Halleluiah and Trump Coin" and the men of Iran--big, strong, manly men
are going to come to him with tears in their eyes and ask for a deal.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:56 pm to Guntoter1
I think it’s now just them bombing us as we await those “perimeters” of a deal
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Yeah that looks legit
Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:29 am to LSUFanHouston
The strategy of starving out the iranian regime is working.
Time is on our side. There is no rush and no need to spend American lives on a ground invasion.
Iran is cut off via rail and sea.
The last bastion of evil in the middle east has fallen.
Time is on our side. There is no rush and no need to spend American lives on a ground invasion.
Iran is cut off via rail and sea.
The last bastion of evil in the middle east has fallen.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 6:08 am to LSUFanHouston
I’m not sure about “biggest Trump supporter” but I’ve been and continue to be a consistent supporter of the president.
I think Trump has handled Iran about as poorly as could be done.
I think Trump has handled Iran about as poorly as could be done.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:11 am to LSUFanHouston
There isn’t a person on here that can see the total picture, none.
The fact that the Mullahs, at some point had to be dealt with at some point is indisputable
The fact that it would never be easy, after letting them run amuck for 40+ years, is also indisputable
Trump is the first Prez in my lifetime that had the balls to put teeth to the jawboning. He’s been right for this country more than he’s been wrong imo so I’ll keep my tongue in my mouth until it shakes out at the end
Of course I’m not a limpdick, limpwristed pussy so take all that with a dose of salt
The fact that the Mullahs, at some point had to be dealt with at some point is indisputable
The fact that it would never be easy, after letting them run amuck for 40+ years, is also indisputable
Trump is the first Prez in my lifetime that had the balls to put teeth to the jawboning. He’s been right for this country more than he’s been wrong imo so I’ll keep my tongue in my mouth until it shakes out at the end
Of course I’m not a limpdick, limpwristed pussy so take all that with a dose of salt
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:24 am to DTRooster
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There isn’t a person on here that can see the total picture, none.
This is the correct answer.
Everybody is like the blind men who were trying to figure out what the elephant was. One felt a leg and insisted it was a tree. Another felt the trunk and argued until he was blue in the face that it was a snake. The third put his hand on the side of the elephant and fought the other two physically when they denied his claim that it was a wall.
Nobody here has enough information at this point to make any definitive judgements. I have my suspicions about how this is going just like everyone else, but unlike everyone else, I also know that that's all they are at this point.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:24 am to DTRooster
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There isn’t a person on here that can see the total picture, none.
By this standard, no administration can ever be criticized for anything.
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