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re: No raise for teachers & Judges have to retire @ 70 years of age

Posted on 5/17/26 at 8:43 am to
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32065 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 8:43 am to
It’s nothing to do with the teachers. People are sick of throwing money at a failing system. Fix the system. There is plenty of money in these school systems. They don’t manage them properly.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5664 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 8:53 am to
Base pay for teachers in LA is $50k. They are paid adequately.

CNA’s EMT’s, Bankers, etc. are underpaid professions
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 8:58 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44315 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 8:55 am to
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There is plenty of money in these school systems. They don’t manage them properly.


The federal government and its unfunded / partially funded mandates would like to have a word with you.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44315 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:02 am to
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It doesn’t require a state amendment to actually give a raise.


Correct. It does, however, require funds, which this would have provided.

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It also kills 3 funds that go to important things needed in school that the government does not have in writing how it will continue to provide it.


More than adequately replaced by the savings that would have gone to debt payments.

In St. Tammany, it would equate to 11 million more per year. Those programs would have been more than covered (and then some).

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After this year the “raise” is not guaranteed since it would ultimately fall back to the local school district.


Again, districts flush with cash.

In St. Tammany, it would have equated to three raises over time.

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Four frick Landry and his grubby paws trying to give out more money to La Gator.


So children should be stuck in shitty schools?

Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3104 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:03 am to
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Being able to just get up off the floor is kind of expected and isn’t anything extraordinary. I see no reason to reward well below average results.


Louisiana is 32nd in the current national report card. Teachers are paid 48th. They would need a 7500 raise for pay to match performance.

There is also a shortage of certified teachers in every district. 1/3 of graduates from teacher programs leave the state. Pay is not matching the market for qualified teachers.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23264 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:04 am to
Take the money out of the school board administration. Replace so much of it with AI if able. But administrators are making way too much bank.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5664 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:14 am to
Louisiana is a poor state. Again, teachers are paid adequately relative to the state pay scale.
Posted by LSUGraduate2002
Kenner
Member since Nov 2008
266 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:21 am to
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Base pay is 50,000.

Several parishes get paid less than that especially to start.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10008 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:21 am to
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They are worried about the State stealing from the retirement fund and the raise is the bait.


BINGO!
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:25 am to
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they are there just to line their pockets in their new 6 figure role and implement narcissistic tasks so they can feel important in their role.


In the military this is known as a self-licking ice-cream cone. And our education system is full of them nation wide.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24230 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:28 am to
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This is the 2nd consecutive time that people refuse to increase pay for teachers.


If they would make changes with their unions that allowed shitty teachers to get fired then I might would consider. Half the cars parked out our school board office is teachers that have been removed from the classroom and have do nothing admin jobs because they can’t be fired.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
6485 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:45 am to
I heard someone say that “Education” was not about the kids, it’s a federal jobs program. I suspect it’s the same on a local level. People’s hesitancy to give teachers a raise is tied to their suspicion that most of the funds will be lost to fraud, abuse or simple ignorance.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68832 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:47 am to
The amendment did appear to be the old “bait and switch”…

All of the Amendments were a little shady, imo…
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16178 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:49 am to
I picked the one I live in, which teachers from Sealy, Royal, Lamar, etc. (all districts that border Katy ISD) could choose to teach in. I know multiple teachers that choose to stay underpaid (to the tune of 35%) to avoid "big ISD" politics. But that is, indeed a choice. Even just in Houston, there are myriad choices within an hour that you can choose.

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. So a teacher picks their principal?

Yes, you dumb shite. If you want to teach at one of seven elementary schools, five of them have openings, you are picking the principal. You interview to learn their style, how they manage, how much freedom they give you, how long until they retire, etc.

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according to your logic what a retarded arse take.

You're the retarded bumpkin that avoids lifetime career earnings to stay close to your cousins or whatever typical backwater Southern bullshite you decide. You'd fit right in in Louisiana. Is the difference between living in Ruston and Monroe really that different? People like you choose to gimp *your* family in the future because you want free baby sitting from granny.

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but to act like people are choosing to work in,

Life is full of choices. I could have stayed in Baton Rouge, or moved to New Orleans, and doing the same job, my lifetime earnings would have been half what they were moving to Atlanta and the career that ensued.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:51 am to
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They are worried about the State stealing from the retirement fund and the raise is the bait.

Teachers are stoopid

The raise was coming from constitutionally protected, untouched EDUCATION funds, with that money going to the RETIREMENT fund

The shift in funding mechanism would allow locals to decrease their retirement funding, and have money for raises. Heres your proof
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Louisiana teachers face pay cut after voters reject plan to drain education trust funds

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Amendment 3 would have indirectly financed pay raises by draining the state’s education trust funds. The money would have been used to pay off debt in the state’s teacher retirement system early, and schools would have been required to use the resulting savings to cover raises. The targeted trust funds support education initiatives in the state from early through higher education.

That means educators are facing a pay cut — $2,000 for teachers and $1,000 for support staff

Now they are going to get a pay cut. Why, you ask? Because the law requires the retirement account to be funded. That money will come from local budgets, who will now have less to pay salaries

It aint rocket surgey
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19987 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:59 am to
I hate to burst a bubble but take a look at this.....

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4th Grade Reading: Louisiana 4th graders rank 16th nationally (climbing from 50th in 2019) and lead the entire country in reading growth.


4th Grade Math: Louisiana's 4th graders
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rank in the top five for math
growth


And here we have the answer......

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Under Louisiana’s Act 1, educator and school administrator salary increases are directly tied to annual performance evaluations, which factor in student learning growth and standardized test scores.


Either Louisiana imported a bunch of Asian 4th graders....or someone cheatin.


Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65889 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:01 am to
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They’re actually one of the most underpaid professionals in our country.


Nope. Complete lie. With very few exceptions, they're paid above their market value.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65889 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:04 am to
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This is the problem for Louisiana. Teacher pay in Louisiana is about 20k less across the board. Katy is a little more expensive but not that much more.


Anyone claiming teachers need to start our at more than 66k a year is not a serious person.

45k-50k a year is a good starting point for their skill level.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49545 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:05 am to
Teachers pay should be based on student performance - both in terms of academic achievement and moral disposition.

Teacher's unions should be criminalized. But if allowed to continue should be dedicated to that states pertinent issues and have no connection to national unions, nor should be allowed to be part of any activity not related directly to the state's educational status. No political affiliation should be tolerated at the union level. No money from any source outside the state should be allowed. No contributions of a state union to any action outside the state lines or for topics directly related to educational improvement within the state should be permitted.

If they want to be teachers make them teach fundamentally important topics as an absolute requirement, before any sort of 'political' item of any kind is even mentioned.

Sort out the lazy and incompetent ones and kick they out - reward good teachers who stick to the topics.

I had great teachers - none of whom would fit into today's collections of 'lets become communists and learn to suck the state tit"

My teachers all inspired me to become a better citizen and shoot for the stars. I recall having only one teacher who did not seem interested in the progression of his students and he only lasted 2 years. But he was real good with a yo-yo.
Posted by Old Man and a Porch
Member since Dec 2023
866 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:16 am to
As I said before, I am in public education. I didn’t vote for it because I do not trust the state government if that money is ever needed. With social media the way it is, it would not surprise me if the teachers try to strike after this. I say try because they have multiple unions and I do not know how well they will organize and work together.
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