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re: National shelter in place due to the vinyl chloride spill in OH?

Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:54 am to
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3485 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:54 am to
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lostinbr

All of this.

Your post will be ignored by OP and the sky will continue to fall in his mind.
Posted by PerplenGold
TX
Member since Nov 2021
2278 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:55 am to
Pray for Omarion
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60710 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:56 am to
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What? Are you saying OP made it up?

he probably saw some 25k follower alternative media person tweet about it
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38054 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:56 am to
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You don't think a massive chemical spill of a deadly known carcinogen is a big deal?


No, not for me personally at this time.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:56 am to
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Probably Cyanide too?


Nah. Cyanide has a triple bond. You never see bonds between molecules increasing from a single to double to triple during a random combustion fire.

Now, the train could have had a tanker carrying cyanide. That is very common.

Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7944 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:01 am to
This is one for Art Proefrock. Have they even called him?

Posted by SauceBawse
Member since Mar 2022
246 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:02 am to
Ohio River looks to be right there.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:03 am to
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Cool.

I saw some people saying acid rain from the burning had ruined their cars 70 miles from the site



Bat signal for ... John Morgan, Alexander shunarah etc
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:04 am to
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Honestly I can't imagine how we've fricked this up so badly.

You can't? Unless it has to do with developing weapons technology, everything the US does is cheap and flimsy.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130926 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:04 am to
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The odd thing is the national news is very silent

Local media matters with these type situations quite honestly. Don’t know about this particular area but there has been a big decline in small town journalism across the country. Local newspapers in such areas have been shutting down and nothing digital is replacing them.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12849 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:05 am to
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He probably didn't make it up but a small segment of twitter users (high iq as they are) are claiming that this is the US's Chernobyl so OP is running with that.

Yeah I’m sure there are “people saying” these things. Just not credible people.

That EPA report about water quality issues took like 2 minutes to dive into and clearly see that it has nothing to do with this derailment. But you get a combination of people who are either A) being disingenuous/trolling or B) panicking, and then it spreads like wildfire.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49696 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:06 am to
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They are finding dead animals 100 miles away so far and allegedly a cloud of this stuff is heading East toward New York
can we get some giant fans and direct it to DC?
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7382 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:06 am to
What new happened, I read they burned off the chemical in a controlled burn after venting it from the train... I know nothing either but the EPA said all samples were within normal ranges.

What is the source for this post?

Yes, I know you cannot believe the government and everyone is out to get you/us but that is not a source.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26069 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:08 am to
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Another two weeks to flatten the curve? That's what some are people are saying needs to happen.

They are finding dead animals 100 miles away so far and allegedly a cloud of this stuff is heading East toward New York

I know nothing about the stuff but I am sure there are some guys that work at places like Westlake Polymer that can tell us about it. This was uncured polyvinyl chloride which is a very deadly and dangerous carcinogen. This stuff is going to destroy that OH town it happened in. Their water supply will never recover. Just wondering what the risk of it affecting the rest of the country really is.

The odd thing is the national news is very silent on it yet we all know Rhianna is pregnant again.

I imagine it's going to be a hard sell to get most Americans back to two weeks to flatten anything.




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Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82211 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:09 am to
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This was uncured polyvinyl chloride
It was vinyl chloride, not polyvinyl chloride, huge difference.

ETA: And not in a good way
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 9:11 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:11 am to
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88
I see what you did there.
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
3430 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:15 am to
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uncured polyvinyl chloride which is a very deadly


No it’s not. Old timers used to walk around in this stuff cleaning out reactors. Eventually some of these same old timers would develop angiosarcoma, a rare liver disease. It took a lifetime to develop this disease so it won’t kill you just from breathing it or getting it in you.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182533 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:18 am to
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No it’s not. Old timers used to walk around in this stuff cleaning out reactors. Eventually some of these same old timers would develop angiosarcoma, a rare liver disease. It took a lifetime to develop this disease so it won’t kill you just from breathing it or getting it in you.



Thank you for the clarification
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:20 am to


Just speculating here. The black is obviously carbon...soot. The yellow around the edges looks like it could be HCL mixing with water vapor. Best case it spreads far and wide. In low concentrations HCL is basically harmless. In this situation dilution is the solution to pollution.
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Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:22 am to
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