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Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:28 am to Jon Ham
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I live about 300 miles east of the spill. Should I be concerned?
It's hard to find much in the way of real news on it but dead animals and fish 100 miles away so far.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:28 am to canyon
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Yes
But if you have cloth masks leftover from the pandemic use them.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:29 am to stout
Literally everything you said is said is bullshite and wrong.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:29 am to canyon
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But if you have cloth masks leftover from the pandemic use them.
I prefer Alyssa's knitted mask
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:30 am to Ingeniero
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Polyvinyl chloride spill
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Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:30 am to stout
Vinyl chloride is pretty dangerous on its own. The permissible exposure limit is 1 ppm. That is not a lot.
The placard for vinyl chloride is this:
The placard for vinyl chloride is this:
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 8:31 am
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:31 am to stout
It is definitely vinyl chloride, not polyvinyl chloride among a few other things that hadn't previously been mentioned. This was in my backyard. They been less than transparent with everything. I hear all kinds of rumors from people working down there on the cleanup but it's hard to know what to believe.
LINK
LINK
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The letter lists vinyl chloride, the chemical officials have mentioned extensively during press conferences as a hazardous material that was released, but it adds these materials to the list: ethylhexyl acrylate, ethylene glycol monobutyl ether and butyl acrylate and says the four “either are known to have been and continue to be released to the air, surface soils and surface waters.”
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 8:33 am
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:31 am to stout
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It's hard to find much in the way of real news on it but dead animals and fish 100 miles away so far.
Link?
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:32 am to stout
quote:I’ve seen lots of stories on it.
It's hard to find much in the way of real news on it
quote:Can you link the source material for this claim and the claims about a potential national shelter in place so we can be more informed? I haven’t found reference to that yet in what I’ve seen on this derailment/chemical spill.
dead animals and fish 100 miles away so far.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:32 am to stout
I like how 2 years ago stout was an expert on renovations and roof repairs, and now he's an chemical, pharmaceutical expert on the reg. I dont know how you have the time.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:33 am to TheGasMan
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Literally everything you said is said is bullshite and wrong.
I said in my OP I know nothing about the stuff so educate us
They are finding dead fish more and more
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Dead fish were found in East Palestine, Ohio's Leslie Run stream. It's contaminated with ammonia, oxygen is low, officials have found dissolved gases, excessive nitrogen & phosphorous; & high levels of bacteria. It's downstream from Lake Erie & upstream from the Ohio River
LINK
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:34 am to stout
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Another two weeks to flatten the curve? That's what some are people are saying needs to happen.
Well people are certainly retarded. Even in an end of the world worst case scenario where millions die this wouldn’t be a threat for anyone west of the Mississippi. Wind patterns would keep it to the east of the site.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:34 am to Pendulum
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and now he's an chemical, pharmaceutical expert on the reg.
Perhaps you can't read
From my OP:
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I know nothing about the stuff but I am sure there are some guys that work at places like Westlake Polymer that can tell us about it
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:34 am to stout
Lots of Amish in that area.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:36 am to GumboPot
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When it burns one of the by products is hydrochloric acid, HCL among all kinds of other dangerous stuff during incomplete combustion. Not good for the lungs
Probably Cyanide too?
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:36 am to MadDogs
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This was in my backyard
Don't drink well water
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Columbiana County's health department is saying treated drinking water is safe. Norfolk Southern is saying well water may not be safe. I'd operate from the perspective that water is not safe out of caution. Water and EPA officials are still investigating.
LINK
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:39 am to stout
This is what a buddy of mine said about it (he works in the industry dealing with this stuff):
Said it’s absolutely a nothing burger.
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VCM boils at atmospheric pressure and temperature. They intentionally released it and then set it on fire to prevent a bleve of the railcar (which would have been bad and awesome at the same time). Burning vcm will make some HCl acid and a few other chemicals, but all of that shite has dissipated and is gone.
Said it’s absolutely a nothing burger.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:40 am to stout
Amazingly they got all of the railroad cars cleared and got the tracks back up and running by within a week as trains were running through there again on Friday. Clearly they were losing a lot of money having that line closed. It is pretty active.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:42 am to CocomoLSU
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Said it’s absolutely a nothing burger
Congrats on ruining stout's day
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