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re: Justice Roberts is an Embarrassment

Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12263 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:19 pm to
If the Court bends to pressure then pressure will be applied by both sides for every big decision.

Like when a referee changes his call because the coach yelled. Then both coaches feel whichever coach gets the loudest and most out of control will get the call.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2925 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:22 pm to
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Every important decision involves significant negotiation and horse-trading.




Sums up what is wrong with the whole SCOTUS process.
It should be about what the fricking CONSTITUTION says, not negotiation and horse-trading!
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:32 pm to
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I think you just answered your own question. No one knows anything about any of this crap without social media. How many weeks did it take the population of the US in 1954 to even have a grasp of the Brown decision. What year did Thurgood Marshal get appointed to the court?


How old are you?

RvW has been the left's Holy Grail long before the internet was around. This issue has been the left's Litmus Test for Supreme Court nominees since the opinion came down. They’ve accused every Republican nominee of lying about the issue. They destroyed Judge Bork because of it. And anyone who was around when Casey came out knows that they’ve been completely f*cking INSANE about this issue since 1973.

This insanity is nothing new. While the Internet allows them to organize more easily, trust me when I say that they would still be marching in the streets and protesting at Justice's homes regardless of whether or not they could organize it on the Internet.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32354 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:42 pm to
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How old are you?
Not sure why age matters but I voted for Nixon.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23828 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:44 pm to
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The Court would lose more credibility if they walk that decision back

That’s probably why Alito or Thomas leaked the opinion,
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48499 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:56 pm to
We'll see.

I'm going to clarify my opinion: the Court will not overturn RvW. If the Court rules as you describe, by ruling that RvW is not before the Court, then my opinion will be correct.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:19 pm to
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Justice Roberts is an Embarrassment

And so is GWBush. Has there been a President that lost the respect of his core fan base like W has? Dude couldn't bring us the Marriage Amendment and went 50% solid conservative SCOTUS judges.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16655 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:22 pm to
18 USC 1507 -

Whoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

Nothing in this section shall interfere with or prevent the exercise by any court of the United States of its power to punish for contempt.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:42 pm to
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If the Court rules as you describe, by ruling that RvW is not before the Court, then my opinion will be correct.


No. You said that the court would uphold RvW. Not ruling on it is not upholding it. You can look for it to be in the Supreme Court's next session if the Supreme Court doesn't overturn it this session.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 10:51 pm
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6579 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 11:05 pm to
I don’t know why this surprises anyone. Roberts is the Lincoln Project’s boy on SCOTUS.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67212 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 11:33 pm to
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Reports are that he is trying to persuade another justice to back off their decision to overturn.


Exactly what I told you would happen. From the get-go, my theory was that Roberts was the leaker so that he could drum up a ton of bad press for the SCOTUS, spark a bunch of angry protests, and convince another "conservative" judge to change their mind.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13523 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:25 am to
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They are not deciding that....they deciding if Mississippi can decide that


This is what will be decided, they are not making a judgment on the law defining abortion, just whether the decision goes back to the states.

Which is the right choice because the supreme court HAD NO STANDING in making the decision in the first place.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:42 am to
Go back to the OT. I think Zelensky just released a new hype video.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:05 am to
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Every important decision involves significant negotiation and horse-trading.
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Sums up what is wrong with the whole SCOTUS process.

Why?

We have nine SCOTUS justices. On any issue involving interpretation, we will have nine different views, even if some of them share many elements. Without negotiation among the Justices (e.g. “I cannot join the opinion if you include that sentence …”), we would get few written opinions.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:09 am to
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How old are you?
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Not sure why age matters but I voted for Nixon.

Touche. That had to hurt.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:12 am to
The problem is they continue to make decisions based on perceived public opinion and not the interpretation of the law.

See Obamacare.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:45 am to
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Isn't he the one that cast the deciding vote on Obama Care?

And squashed the Pennsylvania election law challenge.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4989 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:45 am to
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If the Court bends to pressure then pressure will be applied by both sides for every big decision.

Bird35, you are exactly right. This is what the mob rule Left want. They are the ones that created the current atmosphere and hysteria around any SCOTUS nominee starting with Bjork and continued on for every single Republican nominated SCOTUS. Somehow there wasn't much fanfare around Roberts though....they must have known something.

But the political football of a SCOTUS nominee and hysteria and politicization of SCOTUS nominees is what the Left started and they love it. The next logical step is to create pressure and mob rule with SCOTUS decisions.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27725 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:53 am to
The leak puts any compromises on Roe in jeopardy.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32354 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:10 am to
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How old are you?
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Not sure why age matters but I voted for Nixon.
Touche. That had to hurt.
Not really. Watergate and the subsequent cover up wasn't really a thing until after the election of 72. I was too young to vote in 68. However, my choice was either Nixon or McGovern. Which would you pick? I think McGovern got 20 electoral votes.
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