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Champagne
| Favorite team: | Xavier  |
| Location: | Sabine Free State. |
| Biography: | Profession of Arms |
| Interests: | Profession of Arms |
| Occupation: | Profession of Arms |
| Number of Posts: | 53762 |
| Registered on: | 10/2/2007 |
| Online Status: | Online |
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re: VP blames Zionists as she attacks the attack
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 6:28 pm to prplhze2000
She fine.
Has that sexy whore-lady Spanish teacher thing going on. She can conjugate my verb anytime.
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Has that sexy whore-lady Spanish teacher thing going on. She can conjugate my verb anytime.
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re: When a Lutheran ELCA heretic pastor becomes so wrapped up in politics
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 6:25 pm to FooManChoo
We've had this argument before.
As I've said previously, we have a Bible passage in which Jesus Christ Himself saves a woman from being lawfully stoned to death under the Law for the crime of Adultery.
Jesus saved her life. "Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone."
A theological argument can be made that Jesus opposed the Death Penalty, since he prevented the Law from being carried out.
We've had this argument before. We aren't going there again, Foo.
As I've said previously, we have a Bible passage in which Jesus Christ Himself saves a woman from being lawfully stoned to death under the Law for the crime of Adultery.
Jesus saved her life. "Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone."
A theological argument can be made that Jesus opposed the Death Penalty, since he prevented the Law from being carried out.
We've had this argument before. We aren't going there again, Foo.
re: Th people of Venezuela are taking to the streets right now.
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 6:12 pm to IamNotaRobot
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Hopefully, they will remember the lesson of what happens when you vote for socialism.
NOPE.
The people of the USA will still vote Socialism into power here one day in the future.
re: Th people of Venezuela are taking to the streets right now.
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 6:01 pm to Darth_Vader
They'll be sorry after a US Federal Judge orders Maduro to be returned to Ven. and restored to power.
re: When a Lutheran ELCA heretic pastor becomes so wrapped up in politics
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 2:08 pm to FooManChoo
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Not a dogma
Then this fact is not really relevant to a conversation concerning Dogma, right?
re: When a Lutheran ELCA heretic pastor becomes so wrapped up in politics
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 2:06 pm to FooManChoo
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Not a dogma, but the Catholic Catechism has changed course on the death penalty.
The Death Penalty has always been controversial within the Catholic Church. I'm sure that it's controversial within the Protestant sects, also.
Does Jesus want man-made fallible Governments to put people to death by execution? I'm for the Death Penalty, personally, but, it's a controversial topic.
re: Any response from the Venezuelan government?
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 1:11 pm to RollTide1987
re: When a Lutheran ELCA heretic pastor becomes so wrapped up in politics
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 1:08 pm to Slick Wandoo
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I know for a fact your Pope is not now, nor has never been infallible.
No Pope that I know of made statements like this Lutheran Pastor made. Sure, some Pope's have said some secular policy things that seem Leftist, but, nothing as weird as this Pastor.
Anyway, the last time any Pope did anything "Infallible" was back in November of 1950. Are you complaining about something a Pope did back in 1950?
:lol:
re: The US govt has lost the right to forcibly tax us.
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 11:26 am to FooManChoo
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Moral legitimacy must be based on an objective moral standard or else the conversation is meaningless from the start.
True.
But, there remains no easy answer to the question - When is armed violent overthrow of your own Government the right thing to do in God's Eyes?
And the example that I like most to examine is the American Revolutionary War simply because the British Crown was not all that vicious, oppressive and murderous.
The example that Jesus gives to us would indicate that maybe the American Colonies were on the wrong side of the rule.
re: Have any of you ever thought how you would plan a bank robbery ?
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 11:13 am to LSUTANGERINE
No, but, I have been researching on how to open a daycare center and get Govt funds for it.
re: Paul Skenes is now clean shaven. Trade to the Yankees imminent!
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 10:04 am to JerryTheKingBawler
Livvy has already been home-shopping in NYC. She looked into getting Babe Ruth's apartment but the co-op board turned her down.
Livvy is from that part of the world and IMHO would love for Paul Skenes to be a NY Yankee.
Paul asked her, "What about the Mets?". Livvy rolled her eyes and replied, "I can't believe you would even ask that question."
Livvy is from that part of the world and IMHO would love for Paul Skenes to be a NY Yankee.
Paul asked her, "What about the Mets?". Livvy rolled her eyes and replied, "I can't believe you would even ask that question."
My opinion is this -
May the best team win!
May the best team win!
re: The US govt has lost the right to forcibly tax us.
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 9:41 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Rather than focus on speculative musings on the spiritual fates of the American Revolution’s leaders, my focus here is on the moral and legal legitimacy of the governing authorities.
Your focus is correct.
This analysis is similar to the "Just War" analysis. The Just War analysis has just now taken center stage with the US activities in Venezuela. That's a topic for a separate thread.
Getting back to the focus on the issue of this thread - it's still a tough question and IMHO neither Foo's Theology nor the Roman Catholic Catechism have a great solution for the problem IMHO.
It remains that there is an academic argument to be made that under these rules that we have cited, the American Revolution was immoral and contrary to God's Laws and Will. Just my opinion of course.
Getting back to the OP statement - the US Govt may have lost the moral right to tax the citizens, since it permits such massive fraud to go on for decades, but, nobody wants to fight the Govt over it. My own opinion is that, until the USA solves that fraud problem, it has no moral right to tax the citizens.
Legacy Media talking heads and US Federal Judges will be immediately working to make them understand that they should be hating on Trump instead of celebrating.
re: Maduro & wife captured, evacuated out of Venezuela. DJT
Posted by Champagne on 1/3/26 at 8:29 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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What in the 7 hells
Hey, I like that one!
What in the Seven Hells?
Pretty good.
:lol:
re: The US govt has lost the right to forcibly tax us.
Posted by Champagne on 1/2/26 at 9:26 pm to Toomer Deplorable
I think he's saying that ALL of the American Colonial Governors were appointed by God. All of them remained steadfastly loyal to the Crown, so, Foo, from whence did those subordinate to the Governor get the God-given right to start shooting at their fellow countrymen, the British soldiers?
I appreciate your helping to try to figure this out because it's very tough.
Fact is, Great Britain's Rule over the American Colonies wasn't all that oppressive, compared to say Imperial Rome or Nazi Germany. By your analytical model, I still lean towards the conclusion that the American Revolutionaries are all burning in Hell, to include Patrick Henry, George Washington and W. T. Sherman ( I know Sherman was ACW but I throw him in there just because).
Patrick Henry was a member of the Colonial Virginia Congress. His Governor told him to remain loyal to his Country, Great Britain. He did not.
Both Patrick Henry and the Gov were appointed by God, as you say. What you are saying is that the Governor disobeyed God's Will and failed as Gov, so Patrick Henry was authorized by God to wage armed revolution against the Va. Gov. I think that's what you're saying.
I appreciate your helping to try to figure this out because it's very tough.
Fact is, Great Britain's Rule over the American Colonies wasn't all that oppressive, compared to say Imperial Rome or Nazi Germany. By your analytical model, I still lean towards the conclusion that the American Revolutionaries are all burning in Hell, to include Patrick Henry, George Washington and W. T. Sherman ( I know Sherman was ACW but I throw him in there just because).
Patrick Henry was a member of the Colonial Virginia Congress. His Governor told him to remain loyal to his Country, Great Britain. He did not.
Both Patrick Henry and the Gov were appointed by God, as you say. What you are saying is that the Governor disobeyed God's Will and failed as Gov, so Patrick Henry was authorized by God to wage armed revolution against the Va. Gov. I think that's what you're saying.
I was driving around the countryside south of Lafayette looking at Christmas lights and saw one of these run across the road right in front of my headlights!
Don't be mean.
The Bama people that I know will give Kayla one more season then they go get Cignetti to coach Alabama football.
re: The US govt has lost the right to forcibly tax us.
Posted by Champagne on 1/2/26 at 6:16 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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What gave the Colonial Governor authority? The King or God?
No American Colonial Governor publicly called for armed revolution against the British Crown.
re: The US govt has lost the right to forcibly tax us.
Posted by Champagne on 1/2/26 at 6:01 pm to FooManChoo
Yes, that's a helpful answer.
But, there were no Colonial Governors who called for armed revolution against the British King. Patrick Henry called for revolution but he was a member of the Colonial Legislature.
I'm not sure that under your model of analysis, we can confidently conclude that the American Revolution was good in the eyes of God. In fact, the analysis IMHO seems to lean towards the conclusion that the American Revolution was immoral and wrong.
But, there were no Colonial Governors who called for armed revolution against the British King. Patrick Henry called for revolution but he was a member of the Colonial Legislature.
I'm not sure that under your model of analysis, we can confidently conclude that the American Revolution was good in the eyes of God. In fact, the analysis IMHO seems to lean towards the conclusion that the American Revolution was immoral and wrong.
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