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Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:43 am to burger bearcat
Antagonist claims life is special and part of God's will.
Loving couple wants children. Loving couple can't have children (GOD'S WILL, DAMMIT!!!!).
Sperm donor donates sperm, which is the same thing as intercourse. Because the woman has trouble with implantation, her egg is taken out and the donor's sperm (usually theloving husband) is used to fertilize the egg, same as intercourse. Fertilized egg is implanted into woman's ovary, same as intercourse. A child is born to a loving couple (also increasing the population, which is part of antagonist's religious, political and economic belief systems).
But it wasn't WILLED BY GOD, DAMMIT!!!!!!! SO IT'S NOT THE SAME!!!!!
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:44 am to 4cubbies
Right. The act just has to be "open to" the procreative element. Having sex while infertile or post-menopausal isn't a sin because you aren't intentionally preventing the act from achieving the end goal of procreation (see: Abraham and Sarah). Taking birth control or getting snipped would be different.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:59 am to 4cubbies
quote:No. It's inherently a biological clock issue. Secondarily, many women are attracted to affluence, and men generally garner more of that with age.
I find it interesting that you are framing postponing marriage and raising children as an inherently masculine quality.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:01 am to Snipe
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f you don't understand this you don't trust in God. You just hope YOUR plans work out.
Because God's will could never include or be realized through medical science.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:09 am to deltadummy
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Antagonist claims life is special and part of God's will.
Loving couple wants children. Loving couple can't have children (GOD'S WILL, DAMMIT!!!!).
Sperm donor donates sperm, which is the same thing as intercourse. Because the woman has trouble with implantation, her egg is taken out and the donor's sperm (usually theloving husband) is used to fertilize the egg, same as intercourse. Fertilized egg is implanted into woman's ovary, same as intercourse. A child is born to a loving couple (also increasing the population, which is part of antagonist's religious, political and economic belief systems).
But it wasn't WILLED BY GOD, DAMMIT!!!!!!! SO IT'S NOT THE SAME!!!!!
but but but...TUBES and...INSTRUMENTS!
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:53 am to burger bearcat
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She had previously froze her eggs, and has turned to IVF and surrogacy to create or her own custom baby, because she “always wanted to be a mom, but wanted to do it on her own time”. She created a whole batch of embryos, but only chose one and decided she won’t use the others and will have them destroyed. She also picked her sperm donor out of a catalog, custom creating her child as if she was ordering a new appliance
I’m ok with using IVF for married couples having trouble getting pregnant.
I’m not ok with the above. Perhaps there’s some reasonable middle ground between banning IVF and allowing the above
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:15 am to SlowFlowPro
IVF is evil. IVF will be how couples play God and choose genes, etc. We are given souls at conception. IVF freezes human souls and kills them more than abortion does. It’s directly tied to eugenics. Use your logic and reason.
If you are not conceiving a child it’s because you are not meant to.
If you are not conceiving a child it’s because you are not meant to.
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 11:18 am
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:24 am to PorkBelly
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IVF will be how couples play God and choose genes, etc.
Why would IVF be necessary for this?
Why wouldn't non-IVF embryos permit this gene manipulation?
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We are given souls at conception. IVF freezes human souls and kills them more than abortion does.
Most of those souls die from natural causes before they ever have the chance to become human.
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If you are not conceiving a child it’s because you are not meant to.
This works for IVF, too. If God didn't want people to conceive with IVF, he could stop them.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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This works for IVF, too. If God didn't want people to conceive with IVF, he could stop them.
That's not how it works regarding free will.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:27 am to SallysHuman
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That's not how it works regarding free will.
Well isn't that convenient?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:40 am to TrueTiger
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There isn’t one.
Lady Gaga said they were born that way though
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:50 am to burger bearcat
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will become the moral issue of our time?
So it's not killing them before birth?
Or convincing them that they are the other sex so they can be sterilized and raped by homosexuals?

Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:51 am to 4cubbies
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To frame this as a pervasive “liberal feminist” mindset is disingenuous. Most Americans affirm that sex is biological and is determined at birth.
You read something into that which does not exist, but it's understandable because they operate to different depths within the same sphere. I'm not talking about the attempt to create some rhetorical ground for the pro-LARP (ie: tranny) crowd, I'm talking about the core of liberal feminism which will swear up and down the only differences between men and women are the obvious ones (basically, body hair and genethliac). These are the types who will get defensive and angry when you bring up that men are physically stronger and faster than women on average.
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I find it interesting that you are framing postponing marriage and raising children as an inherently masculine quality.
Not so much inherent as it is a generalization based on males being more likely to be more independence-minded than females.
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Coincidentally, I read a study yesterday that showed women who gave birth after 33 years of age have significantly longer telomeres as they age than women who had their children before turning 34. Breast cancer risks also decrease for women who have children after 33. So there are some benefits for women who postpone childbearing.
As I mentioned in my other post, there's still a timer on women when dealing with procreation and my main point in it is that liberal feminists ignore that in order to tell women "see, you can be just like men". The further they get beyond their 30s, the greater the chance of complications with the pregnancy, birth defects, etc. even with frozen eggs.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:56 am to burger bearcat
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She also picked her sperm donor out of a catalog, custom creating her child as if she was ordering a new appliance
How is this child going to have a normal life, growing up intentionally without his/her father?
Just a suggestion, but why don't you mind your own business and let people live their own lives?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:58 am to BigJim
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Just a suggestion, but why don't you mind your own business and let people live their own lives?
It's a message board... if everyone minded their own business there'd be nothing to discuss and debate.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:59 am to burger bearcat
so the people that can afford to spend a 100k on a baby will get to design it. its weird and just sad.
My wife and i tried everything but IVF to have a child at the end of the day at the time we couldn't afford 50k and it felt un natural to us to have a child that way.
Since then i have had some younger friends to this route of IVF and i hold nothing against them for bringing life into this world.
My wife and i tried everything but IVF to have a child at the end of the day at the time we couldn't afford 50k and it felt un natural to us to have a child that way.
Since then i have had some younger friends to this route of IVF and i hold nothing against them for bringing life into this world.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:05 pm to SallysHuman
We had an unsuccessful IVF. It hit me several years later that the excess fertilizations were essentially 'aborted'. They weren't implanted in womb but still they were the building blocks of a human. They made it sound so sterile it wasn't until later pondering the concept that it hit me.
Other observations
IVF is like a casino, people only share their success stories, never the failures.
We went to a Seattle facility, lots of Lesbo couples in the waiting rooms. Were they looking to be implanted?
Other observations
IVF is like a casino, people only share their success stories, never the failures.
We went to a Seattle facility, lots of Lesbo couples in the waiting rooms. Were they looking to be implanted?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:06 pm to skylane
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We had an unsuccessful IVF.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:09 pm to Bard
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As I mentioned in my other post, there's still a timer on women when dealing with procreation and my main point in it is that liberal feminists ignore that in order to tell women "see, you can be just like men". The further they get beyond their 30s, the greater the chance of complications with the pregnancy, birth defects, etc. even with frozen eggs.
If you notice her wording, she's all about what's "best" for the woman- what may be best or not for the child is not even an afterthought.
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