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re: IVF and “build a baby, inc” will become the moral issue of our time?

Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:11 pm to
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We went to a Seattle facility, lots of Lesbo couples in the waiting rooms. Were they looking to be implanted?


Was that any of your business?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:12 pm to
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Is not too attractive anymore and can’t find a man now that she would seem worthy


She one of those 6-6-6 women who's nowhere near a 6?
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
7069 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:14 pm to
We had similar story that I posted about on page 2 I guess. I think it was going to be $10k + (17 yrs ago) per try. Then we would have the frozen embryos that we just didn't feel right about doing IVF.

So we spent $45k on adoption. Adoption is way too expensive and it is definitely a market based pricing. If there were more people willing to not abort and put up for adoption, I'm sure this price would go down. There are lots of families wanting to adopt.

We wouldn't change it for anything. Sure I wish my wife could've had that connection of carrying a child and birthing that child, but our lives are complete and love our girls more than anything.
Posted by skylane
Polebridge Montana
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:20 pm to
Just wondering why they were there.... seemed wierd.
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:22 pm to
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If you are not conceiving a child it’s because you are not meant to.


So we should get rid of penicillin? If you get an infection, you’re meant to die?
Posted by CaptJJ
Member since Jan 2021
122 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:38 pm to
Modern medicine allows us the ability for children to cut off their own genitals and block puberty to affirm whatever psychosis they, or their parents have, so is your argument that if modern medice gives us the ability to achieve something then that something is God's will and morally right?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:51 pm to
That's more a question for the guy who sincerely made the "God's will" argument

You're responding to my comment poking holes in his stance, while providing excellent questions to further attack it.

I wish you fortune in your endeavor

Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:55 pm to
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So we should get rid of penicillin? If you get an infection, you’re meant to die?


Preserving life is a little different than creating (and discarding) life.

You know that though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:57 pm to
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Preserving life is a little different than creating (and discarding) life.

Again, convenient. Who knew the will of God only went one way (again)?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:59 pm to
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Again, convenient.


Why do you keep saying 'convenient'?

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Who knew the will of God only went one way (again)?


Regarding preservation, creation and destruction? Anyone who's read the Bible.

Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
4057 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:42 pm to
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You know that though


You must’ve struggled to read what I was responding to.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62481 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:02 pm to
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You read something into that which does not exist,


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Admittedly, I didn’t read the whole thread before chiming in. Although you are a thoughtful poster, you have to acknowledge that the board at large has a fixation on transsexuals.

The term “feminism” has been perverted so profoundly that no one really knows what it refers to or entails anymore. Around here, it’s an expletive.

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Not so much inherent as it is a generalization based on males being more likely to be more independence-minded than females.

Wouldn’t this translate to men not marrying or having children at all?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:05 pm to
I don't find the "God's will" or "discarded embryos" arguments convincing. The argument that sex should be unitive and procreative can stand on its own. IVF doesn't become any more morally acceptable if technology advances to a point where a transplanting a single embryo is 100% successful every time. Multiple popes have written about how as long as the act is directed toward the natural order, you're doing it (giggity) as intended. By nature, women have fertile and infertile periods throughout the month, and throughout their life. That's the basis of natural family planning.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62481 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:08 pm to
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If you notice her wording, she's all about what's "best" for the woman- what may be best or not for the child is not even an afterthought.


If we’re making inferential leaps, maybe you can explain why you view women through a lens of utility-- their only function being to produce children at an age you find palatable?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
59939 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:10 pm to
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The term “feminism” has been perverted so profoundly that no one really knows what it refers to or entails anymore. Around here, it’s an expletive.


So... you made an "inferential leap"? ;)

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Wouldn’t this translate to men not marrying or having children at all?


No, it just translates to us being not as-eager/more-reluctant to do so than women.
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:14 pm to
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maybe you can explain why you view women through a lens of utility


I view women, AND men, through a Christ-Centered lens… We are fearfully and wonderfully made.

Next question?

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62481 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:17 pm to
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No. It's inherently a biological clock issue. Secondarily, many women are attracted to affluence, and men generally garner more of that with age.


It seems like many posters are using biological drivers of coupling and procreation and sociological drivers of coupling and procreation interchangeably. They really need to be separated for an honest discussion imo. Are we discussing primitive instincts or social behavioral patterns?
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17079 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:17 pm to
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Again, convenient. Who knew the will of God only went one way (again)?


You know nothing of God or his will. You're an ambulance chaser that loves to argue and confidently arguing form a position of ignorance is what get's you up in the morning.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62481 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:19 pm to
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I view women, AND men, through a Christ-Centered lens… We are fearfully and wonderfully made. Next question?


Good thing you announced that because your actual posts don’t reflect that at all.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
24293 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:23 pm to
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Good thing you announced that because your actual posts don’t reflect that at all.


Sure, Jan
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