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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:12 pm to burger bearcat
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Is not too attractive anymore and can’t find a man now that she would seem worthy
She one of those 6-6-6 women who's nowhere near a 6?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:14 pm to CajunTripper
We had similar story that I posted about on page 2 I guess. I think it was going to be $10k + (17 yrs ago) per try. Then we would have the frozen embryos that we just didn't feel right about doing IVF.
So we spent $45k on adoption. Adoption is way too expensive and it is definitely a market based pricing. If there were more people willing to not abort and put up for adoption, I'm sure this price would go down. There are lots of families wanting to adopt.
We wouldn't change it for anything. Sure I wish my wife could've had that connection of carrying a child and birthing that child, but our lives are complete and love our girls more than anything.
So we spent $45k on adoption. Adoption is way too expensive and it is definitely a market based pricing. If there were more people willing to not abort and put up for adoption, I'm sure this price would go down. There are lots of families wanting to adopt.
We wouldn't change it for anything. Sure I wish my wife could've had that connection of carrying a child and birthing that child, but our lives are complete and love our girls more than anything.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:20 pm to chalmetteowl
Just wondering why they were there.... seemed wierd.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:22 pm to PorkBelly
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If you are not conceiving a child it’s because you are not meant to.
So we should get rid of penicillin? If you get an infection, you’re meant to die?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Modern medicine allows us the ability for children to cut off their own genitals and block puberty to affirm whatever psychosis they, or their parents have, so is your argument that if modern medice gives us the ability to achieve something then that something is God's will and morally right?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:51 pm to CaptJJ
That's more a question for the guy who sincerely made the "God's will" argument
You're responding to my comment poking holes in his stance, while providing excellent questions to further attack it.
I wish you fortune in your endeavor

You're responding to my comment poking holes in his stance, while providing excellent questions to further attack it.
I wish you fortune in your endeavor

Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:55 pm to Aguga
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So we should get rid of penicillin? If you get an infection, you’re meant to die?
Preserving life is a little different than creating (and discarding) life.
You know that though.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:57 pm to SallysHuman
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Preserving life is a little different than creating (and discarding) life.
Again, convenient. Who knew the will of God only went one way (again)?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, convenient.
Why do you keep saying 'convenient'?
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Who knew the will of God only went one way (again)?
Regarding preservation, creation and destruction? Anyone who's read the Bible.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:42 pm to SallysHuman
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You know that though
You must’ve struggled to read what I was responding to.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:02 pm to Bard
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You read something into that which does not exist,
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Admittedly, I didn’t read the whole thread before chiming in. Although you are a thoughtful poster, you have to acknowledge that the board at large has a fixation on transsexuals.
The term “feminism” has been perverted so profoundly that no one really knows what it refers to or entails anymore. Around here, it’s an expletive.
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Not so much inherent as it is a generalization based on males being more likely to be more independence-minded than females.
Wouldn’t this translate to men not marrying or having children at all?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't find the "God's will" or "discarded embryos" arguments convincing. The argument that sex should be unitive and procreative can stand on its own. IVF doesn't become any more morally acceptable if technology advances to a point where a transplanting a single embryo is 100% successful every time. Multiple popes have written about how as long as the act is directed toward the natural order, you're doing it (giggity) as intended. By nature, women have fertile and infertile periods throughout the month, and throughout their life. That's the basis of natural family planning.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:08 pm to SallysHuman
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If you notice her wording, she's all about what's "best" for the woman- what may be best or not for the child is not even an afterthought.
If we’re making inferential leaps, maybe you can explain why you view women through a lens of utility-- their only function being to produce children at an age you find palatable?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:10 pm to 4cubbies
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The term “feminism” has been perverted so profoundly that no one really knows what it refers to or entails anymore. Around here, it’s an expletive.
So... you made an "inferential leap"? ;)
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Wouldn’t this translate to men not marrying or having children at all?
No, it just translates to us being not as-eager/more-reluctant to do so than women.
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:14 pm to 4cubbies
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maybe you can explain why you view women through a lens of utility
I view women, AND men, through a Christ-Centered lens… We are fearfully and wonderfully made.
Next question?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:17 pm to NC_Tigah
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No. It's inherently a biological clock issue. Secondarily, many women are attracted to affluence, and men generally garner more of that with age.
It seems like many posters are using biological drivers of coupling and procreation and sociological drivers of coupling and procreation interchangeably. They really need to be separated for an honest discussion imo. Are we discussing primitive instincts or social behavioral patterns?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, convenient. Who knew the will of God only went one way (again)?
You know nothing of God or his will. You're an ambulance chaser that loves to argue and confidently arguing form a position of ignorance is what get's you up in the morning.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:19 pm to SallysHuman
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I view women, AND men, through a Christ-Centered lens… We are fearfully and wonderfully made. Next question?
Good thing you announced that because your actual posts don’t reflect that at all.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:23 pm to 4cubbies
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Good thing you announced that because your actual posts don’t reflect that at all.
Sure, Jan
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