How far gone would be be if Trump never happened

alot worse than we are now

TBH I think Trump hastened it. Not that it's his fault, but he brought out the worst in the left and accelerated their decline into madness. They were always going this way, but he sped it up considerably.

The way I see it it just drew the battle lines more quickly, whereas without Trump they might not be as stark as they are.

You may be right about him hastening it but I also think he opened many folks eyes to the fact corruption is on both sides of the aisle

From the Trump years we learned a great deal...

We learned how corrupt the mainstream media is. We learned that Google, Facebook, Twitter, the WaPo and the 'failing' NY Times can't control themselves and are the real fascists, to the point of disinformation, lying and censorship. We learned most of the Republicans are Democrats with a different colored tie. Most of all, we learned how deep the swamp is and how staples of the American government which I held in high regard [looking at you Justice Department, CIA and FBI] can't be trusted anymore. Not only their mouthpieces, their rank and file are just as corrupt.


Yet, the best thing to come out of Trump years.... Hope.

We learned there are A LOT of people who are just like you and I. For that, he legitimately earned more votes in a re-election campaign than any candidate in recent history.

And we learned stolen elections have consequences as well.

Great post my thoughts exactly.

Man growing up I was never a conspiracy kind of guy but it’s crazy to believe that our government and the politicians that run are so corrupt. It’s right in front of us and some people choose to ignore it but I am not one of those people. Trump exposed them all.

Trump was part of the descent we are seeing. There's NO WAY the entire country would have locked down with Hillary as POTUS. Why? Because Republicans would have told her to pound sand, but since Trump asked them to...... Same for the Patriot Act. No way we get the Patriot Act passed with Al Gore as POTUS.

When you accept the fact that both parties are working toward the same goal, you'll be in a much better place.

Not at all - he gave us a respite from the onrushing disaster. Had HRC become POTUS she would surely have also gotten at least half of the Congress and along with that the 3 SCOTUS justices. RGB would have gotten her wish.

In addition, HRC is perhaps the most evil-minded people possible for that position. Everything they wanted to do would have been set up for them and I see no reason why they would not have gone full speed ahead with their plans a full four years earlier.

Now, we may have been spared the plague of "wuhan-flu" because it would not have been needed to set up the conditions for 2020 election.

I will always be ever thankful that Trump was there to put a pothole in that road to hell, and if we could have survived the theft in 2020 we'd be well on our way to wiping out several decades of progstain corruption and malfeasance.

NOTHING that would put HRC in any position of power can be considered good.

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They're behind schedule, and being forced to accelerate their timeline. That's why the moves are so overt from their side. It was supposed to be like frogs in a pot of water heated slowly.

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Trump probably made what we are seeing now worse than it would have been. The globalists have had to throw off all illusions of decency because Trump started waking too many folks up too fast. They can't handle it and are now just firing shite in every direction.

I think his crowd would of just been back at local
stock car races. That's what rural folks do when not at a Trump rally