Started By
Message

re: Help Me Understand Trump's Claim

Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:19 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140435 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:19 am to
quote:

someone didn't pass 10th-grade civics if they think states and blue cities are involved in international diplomacy and should be the first line of defense in National Security involving the Chinese.
This statement should appear in Webster's as prototypical of the term "irony."

---

As it's evident you "didn't pass 10th-grade civics," allow me to help you.
States have primary constitutional responsibility for administering elections.

States must:
• Maintain and secure voter registration rolls.
• Purchase and secure voting machines.
• Recruit and train poll workers.
• Count ballots and certify state election results.
• Implement cybersecurity measures for state and local election infrastructure.
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
18046 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:30 am to
You can’t be reasoned with because you are a dyed in the wool liberal who was fine with the way the country was run into the ground because they were nice to all the influencers and illegals in the country.

If you can’t see the positive impact of border control, and the ramifications of that from overloading our schools, healthcare system, legal system and entitlement programs, you’re just flat out fricking stupid.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38114 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:31 am to
The Chinese or others interfere when Trump is not getting his way. When Trump wins, elections are free and fair.
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
2517 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:32 am to
I have no problem with the save America act as I know it. That people show id and citizenship. I do think Covid allowed changes in voting to try and accommodate voters and workers. Intentions seem good but paper ballots mailed and mailed back does inherently allow someone other than the voter the ballot is intended to interfere with or in the process. No one shows up at a polling location to give an id or have corrected nuances that could be cleared up if they had presented to vote with an id. For example, if they had moved within the past year or were being confused with a person of the same name in the same location like a jr or sr. An id allows a voting worker to view date of birth and a picture of a person. Additionally, if a paper ballot mailed is not filled in correctly by the voter, election supervisors make a decision on how to count the ballot and who to count it for. For example if a paper ballot was to have the oval darkened so that a scanner could read it and the voter placed an x in the oval instead. Technically the ballot has not been filled out correctly and if the scanner can’t read it, the election supervisors get to determine the votes outcome. Until proof or evidence comes out to show that the machines are tampered and or they don’t work as intended, it is still the preferred method in my mind following the voter identifying themselves. I do believe that Covid and the mailing of paper ballots created the problems with the 2029 elections as well as all of the late counting of ballots which lead to mistrust of the integrity of the process. I do not believe that election machines that are tested in mock elections before each election and that are never electronically connected to the internet and that simply count voters choices and which have the same number of votes as the location had voters can be said to be corrupted without evidence that they were. In fact one of the companies, I believe Dominion sued and one in court because of the loss revenue in selling there machines because of false allegations. If there is any evidence, a single shred of evidence, let’s see it. If not, the machines are the best method of counting. Not humans who make mistakes and have to interpret a vote.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31568 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:41 am to
It’s only a fair election if he wins. If he loses it’s because of fraud. This was nothing but priming the cult to accept it
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38114 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:50 am to
Good, then if the government is mandating all of this, then the government should provide a funding mechanism inside of the SAVE Act as well as stipulate what kind of voting machines to use and the approval process for those machines .

Where's the money coming from to implement the federally mandated provisions for the purchase of the mandated machines that meet federal guidelines and to implement all the cyber measures mandated?
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 6:55 am
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
18102 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:55 am to
Face it, loser.

If you don’t understand now, then you’ll never understand.

You’re either too stupid or you’re just trolling and don’t know what the frick you’re saying. Because you’re too stupid to understand. What is there to understand? The dims have been cheating forever. just because they don’t win the election doesn’t mean they weren’t cheating stupid arse. When a Republican wins it means that they overwhelmed the cheating.

Why can’t you see that?

It’s because you and all the others spouting this bullshite are fricking idiots.


And your idiocy is being used because you’re idiots
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21320 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:00 am to
quote:

So, during the 2016 election, Obama was president, and there wasn't massive Fraud



Has this been demonstrated?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
56980 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:02 am to
quote:

He’s not smart.
He’s not a good person, and by every “Real World Metric,” the country is worse off than before he took office
quote:

Just because you state something over and over without facts, evidence, or proof. Doesn’t prove an argument or make it a real thing.


Let’s start with “He’s not smart.” Really? He is at least a moderate success in the real estate business, then he was a big success in show business, then he became the only outsider to win a US presidential election IN HISTORY! But you say, “He’s not smart.”

Now, the foolish statement that the country is worse off “by every ‘Real World Metric’”. Let’s look at some metrics, shall we?

Real wage growth has outpaced inflation leaving workers with more buying power than they had when Trump took over. This is probably the single most important metric for most Americans.

Capital spending is way up today compared to when Trump took office. Investors are betting on America. This is a metric that portends very well for the future.

Energy production is higher today than when Trump took office.

Manufacturing Investment is higher today than when Trump took office. This is another metric that portends well for the future.

This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 7:05 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
78893 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:02 am to
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10520 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:02 am to
The democrats cheated on an industrial scale with illegal ballot harvesting in the 2020 election.

It was egregious. Look at some of the numbers in the big cities compared to prior elections.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16674 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:04 am to
Here’s the thing

We have had fraud on all sides for many many years. To think this is only one sided is naive.

And other countries have been meddling for a long time. We meddle in other countries elections too!

Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2569 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:09 am to
Deep state. frick off.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140435 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:09 am to
quote:

Where's the money coming from
As with real ID, the majority of funding should obviously come from the states, as it is their responsibility. Putting in voting machines that can be electronically hacked, with manipulated tallies, is obviously something no state should have in use. 280,000 ineligible ballots cast and counted in an election is obviously a problem. It is a state problem.

However, as a state may have interest in preserving a corrupt process, there is a little path to correction in our current system. Roberts cowardly Supreme Court saw to that in TX v PA.
Posted by Gings5
Member since Jul 2016
11734 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:10 am to
Harris lost the popular vote and every single swing state. It was a landslide victory for Trump.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9351 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:10 am to
Bless your heart.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38114 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:11 am to
Yep, I remember in the mid to late 90s Clinton sent his campaign strategists to Israel to influence an election in favor of the Labor Party, and that is just one of many instances where we "consult and give advice" .

We used to and probably still do it in Central and South America. I mean we essentially funded the nullification of an election through a coup in Chile in 1971.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
29012 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:13 am to
quote:

So, during the 2016 election, Obama was president, and there wasn't massive Fraud. Trump Won



This is solely what you call not taking a candidate seriously and them thinking they know the American people. Obozo never expected trump to win so therefore no need to rig or cheat. They all thought Hitlery had it in the bag
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 7:14 am
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4805 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:13 am to
LINK here is a link to a story about 2 True the Vote folks went to jail for exposing voting information was stored on chinese servers.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38114 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:21 am to
Federal mandates should have federal funding attached. If the Feds are going to mandate the types of machines, then the Feds need to pony up. If the Feds are going to mandate specific procedures on assembling and curing the voting roles, then the Feds should fork over the money to the states to help absorb costs on the local end.
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 4Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram