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re: Help Me Understand Trump's Claim

Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:35 am to
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8719 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:35 am to
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If our election system is as compromised as Donald Trump contends it is, does that mean his victories in 2016 and 2024 should be contested?

I think Trump would welcome that because if you dig into one election or two, you should go beyond that and look at more of them. I know I would like to see it happen. Let’s get the ball rolling on discovery.

The dirty secret is, dems don’t want this.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
8492 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:39 am to
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Trump and his supporters shocked the establishment political order in 2016 and they were not gonna have it in 2020 GE. After the 2020 GE there were too many people watching the 2024 GE for an easy rig, plus Kackles was a terrible Democratic Socialist candidate.

Exactly. The Dem system was in full effect in in 2016. 2020 took a worldwide pandemic to cover up for the system. Something they couldn't hide behind in 24.

I wonder what the OP would say happened to 6m+ "Americans that voted for Biden over Trump, but didn't vote for Kamala.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140435 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:40 am to
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Federal mandates should have federal funding attached.
There are many things that should be. The issue here is not "should," but rather "must."
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38114 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:53 am to
bullshite, if I "must" do it, then you are going to pay me for it. The federal government shouldn't just mandate, force others to front the costs and then pinky promise to pay with the threat that if the state doesn't comply then bad things will happen.

That is almost the definition of what so many fools on here would vall authoritarian. However, since it's el caudillo who wants it, and sycophants in Congress then, it must be righteous.

The states bare the costs, the Feds just waste paper
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19664 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:53 am to
So it's evident you're trolling because others are attempting to explain what you can't comprehend. So you're OP title is disingenuous.


I cannot teach one who doesn't want to learn.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9857 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 7:54 am to
You are too dense to understand. Middle School starts again shortly…..and you can go back to PE where you belong.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12822 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:06 am to
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You don’t want a serious response you’re trolling.



Just because you don't like or agree with something doesn't mean it's 'trolling'. How thin skinned are you?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12822 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:12 am to
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Americans that voted for Biden over Trump, but didn't vote for Kamala


You realize this goes both ways? There were voters who gave Trump a chance in 2016 who then in 2020 voted for Biden. There were Biden voters in 2020 who voted Trump in 2024. Kamala was an awful candidate. So was Hillary. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how Trump was able to beat both of them. Biden was sold as a 'moderate' (he wasn't) and they put him in the basement so he wouldn't say stupid stuff all the time while Trump was doing rallies where he was saying stupid stuff over and over that turned people away from him. Trump losing an election doesn't mean there was fraud. Trump claimed there was 'fraud' and it was 'rigged' when he lost the Iowa Caucus to Ted Cruz Trump cries wolf too often.

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Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
8492 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:19 am to
I see you “conveniently” left out the mysteriously missing 6m+ Biden voters, I specifically mentioned.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14525 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:24 am to
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Harris lost the popular vote


By a couple million votes.

Raw votes were closer than both 2016 and 2020.

The whole question is predicated on the narrative that the Democrats didn't cheat in 2024 because she was so far behind.

She was absolutely close enough for cheating to have been possible.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12822 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:32 am to
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I see you “conveniently” left out the mysteriously missing 6m+ Biden voters, I specifically mentioned.


Because it is a lie. There were not 5, 10, 15, or 20 million "missing votes" in 2024.

From election to election, millions of voters potentially shifting support from one party to another isn't unusual because about 40 percent of voters in the U.S. consider themselves independents and elections are won and lost with that 40 percent. The middle voters decide every single Presidential election. The far left or far right 'base' isn't enough to put either party over the top without the people in the middle who vote.


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