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Stidham8
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Yeah cause his contract is 60mil a year and hes been clowing to Org My goodness you are a moron
You don’t understand the basic fundamentals of NBA basketball. If Jaylen Brown was truly an elite player the best offer the Celtics got wouldn’t have been a Paul George salary dump.
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re: Jaylen Brown traded to the 76ers for Paul George and picks
Posted by Stidham8 on 7/3/26 at 10:21 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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All top 40 if advanced stats are your jam. You’re a moron, you can criticize a bad deal if your team makes it. I’ve seen plenty from my own
On average he isn’t when you look at the most popular advanced statistics.
DARKO: +1.8 (40th)
EPM: +1.5 (77th)
LEBRON: +1.5 (67th)
LAKER: +2.4 (62nd)
3 year RAPM: -0.5 (283rd)
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Yet he was just traded for a bag of potato chips because literally no one in the NBA wanted him (except Philly so they could dump George’s contract).
You are completely clueless on this issue.
You are completely clueless on this issue.
re: Jaylen Brown traded to the 76ers for Paul George and picks
Posted by Stidham8 on 7/3/26 at 4:42 pm to Epic Cajun
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Regular season wins don’t count for much if you lose in the first round of the playoffs.
There is legitimately nothing on paper that points to Jaylen Brown being a top 40 player in the NBA. It’s staggering when you look at the numbers.
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What Brown was 6th in MVP voting. He was without a doubt one of the best players in the league this year. Playoffs don't matter with regular season awards. He was without a doubt going to be all NBA even if JJJ qualified. And even if you think JJJ would have been in over Brown (which he wouldn't), there still was third team all nba.
If any of that were true he wouldn’t have been traded for a bag of stale potato chips.
No front office shares your opinion. Neither do the advanced statistics.
re: Jaylen Brown traded to the 76ers for Paul George and picks
Posted by Stidham8 on 7/3/26 at 11:48 am to Epic Cajun
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It sounds like Boston thought he was good, but not Supermax good in a climate where you essentially have a hard cap at the second apron. In this environment you don’t want to put yourself in a situation where you are paying the 25th best player in the NBA a supermax contract.
Agree completely. Analytically he’s also not close to #25. Closer to the 70-80s.
re: Jaylen Brown traded to the 76ers for Paul George and picks
Posted by Stidham8 on 7/3/26 at 11:09 am to saintsfan22
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Adding one guy might knock him off the 2nd team, how does it knock him off the 3rd team as well?
Are you forgetting about Kawhi and Durant, two much better players who had much better numbers?
re: Jaylen Brown traded to the 76ers for Paul George and picks
Posted by Stidham8 on 7/3/26 at 10:37 am to saintsfan22
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But you're talking about guys that played under 52 games. Wade, Yao, and Steph are the only guys since 2000 to make an all-NBA team despite missing 30 games, which Kawhi and Durant did that season. Wade and Steph were 3rd team and Yao was 2nd because there was like 5 centers left in the league.
Kevin Durant and Kawhi Leonard aren’t in that same category? Please. They would’ve made the team. And literally 1 year later Ja, Durant, and LeBron all played in the 50s and still made the teams.
And regardless of whether they wouldn’t have or would have, Jaylen was extremely fortunate to jump those guys because he’s not in the same galaxy talent/efficiency wise as them. To classify him as a top 6 forward in the NBA in 2023 was laughable. He simply wasn’t on that level, as proven by nobody wanting to trade for him these past few weeks.
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He had a great year. Adding a guy doesn't knock Brown off.
Yes adding a guy over Brown would’ve knocked him off. I distinctly remember the talk of Jaylen making All NBA was because he got it by default over more talented guys.
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A shortened season after covid
Shortened by 10 games. Wouldn’t have gotten a single one of them to 65.
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Had he not made all NBA in 2023 and been on a standard 4 year $40million/year max contract the return would’ve been much better or the Cs wouldn’t have wanted to trade him at all.
NBA GMs agree:
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I think the Celtics are about to find out that Tatum is a bit overrated as well. He’s the better between the two, but he wasn’t nearly aggressive enough at going to the basket BEFORE the Achilles, now he’s going to be less so.
We’ll see. The Celtics aren’t serious championship contenders anyways until they move off of Paul George’s $54 and $56 million over the next two years.
All NBA 1st team 2021
Kawhi - 52 games
2nd team
Embiid - 51
LeBron - 45
Third team
Butler - 52
George - 54
Irving - 54
Kawhi - 52 games
2nd team
Embiid - 51
LeBron - 45
Third team
Butler - 52
George - 54
Irving - 54
re: Jaylen Brown traded to the 76ers for Paul George and picks
Posted by Stidham8 on 7/3/26 at 9:32 am to saintsfan22
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Durant played 47 games. Kawhi played 52. You aren't making all-NBA if you miss that many games even if the rule never existed. JJJ has never made all-NBA so him potentially blocking Brown's candidacy matters as much as like Jaxson Hayes.
That’s false. Players routinely made the All NBA teams playing well under 65 games. JJJ had a heck of a year and was a shoe in for an All NBA team but he only played 63 games that season.
Jaylen had it fall in his lap, point blank. He wouldn’t have made All NBA without the new rule that benefited him.
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Just say you can not have two guys making 70 million. It's a much more reasonable explanation than this "actually Derrick White despite shooting 39% this year was the best player on the team" big brain defense that they're trying.
You can have two supermax guys IF they’re actually producing at a top 10 level and not just inefficiently stuffing a stat sheet.
Jaylen bombed out in game 7 of the playoffs and last year in game 6 against the Knicks. His on/off numbers are terrible. He’s not worth the money, it’s that simple.
re: Jaylen Brown traded to the 76ers for Paul George and picks
Posted by Stidham8 on 7/2/26 at 9:24 pm to saintsfan22
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Read my post and be refreshed on the details.
Jaylen made the all NBA team as a forward. You listed Devin Booker and Ja. They are in the guard category. It was guys like Durant, Kawhi, Jaren Jackson Jr, etc. who missed the 65 game cutoff. I don’t remember who all else but it was him jumping several guys that he wasn’t as good as.
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You don't think he's the same caliber of player as Jalen Duran, Jalen Johnson, Domantas Sabonis, or Julius Randle? quote: All of the analytics back it up. Watch a fricking game, nerd.
In today’s NBA with the second apron you CANNOT have a supermax player who doesn’t contribute from an analytics standpoint like a true top 10-15 NBA player.
Jaylen gets skewered in every advanced analytic category. That’s why no team ponied up a reasonable offer for him. What the Cs got was horrific offer for a reason.
re: Jaylen Brown traded to the 76ers for Paul George and picks
Posted by Stidham8 on 7/2/26 at 8:23 pm to saintsfan22
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This is where the Brown discourse gets weird. He made 2nd team All-NBA in '23. It wasn't like he was the last guy on because they were fishing for scraps. There was literally 5 players with less votes. The guys that made 1st or 2nd team the previous year that missed because of the 65 game rule were KD(only 47 games played), Booker(53 games played), Ja(9 games played). You're not making all-NBA with that many games missed even if it wasn't a rule. Derozan made 2nd team the previous year then got 2 votes total in '23. As for this year, saying he just made all-NBA because Tatum was out is a pretty negative retelling of him leading them to a 3 seed and finishing 6th in MVP voting when his two top teammates were Derrick White(in a down year) and Payton Pritchard.
I don’t remember all the details but he did slide into 2nd team by default because of injuries and a few guys not qualifying for the new 65 game rule. He’s not a 2nd team All NBA caliber player. He’s not third team caliber either.
I’m saying he likely doesn’t make all NBA this year if Tatum plays because Tatum is a better player and would’ve taken a ton of Jaylen’s usage away.
The Cs got put in a tough spot with the timing of his All NBA years.
Jaylen is a top 20-25 range player. He doesn’t produce at a supermax level. All of the analytics back that up.
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All of that can be true, and it’s still an awful return. I agree that his contract is abysmal, and he’s overrated, but he’s worth more than Paul George and 2 first round picks lol
No doubt it’s an awful return. That’s the price to pay for dumping Jaylen on this supermax.
Had he not made all NBA in 2023 and been on a standard 4 year $40million/year max contract the return would’ve been much better or the Cs wouldn’t have wanted to trade him at all.
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Stevens realized that the 23 Celtics championship was the last of an era that no longer exist. You have to adjust to the apron rules or you are crippled. This is a move towards revamping the roster into the new rules, governing salary cap. I hate it, but I understand it.
Yep. This is a long term move to make the Cs a championship contender again with some short term pain for 1 season. Even with losing Jaylen they’ll still be a competitive playoff team with Mitchell Robinson added to the fold.
If they ink Jaylen to the supermax extension this summer the next half decade would’ve handcuffed the team. You can’t do it in the second apron era. That’s why no team wanted to give the Cs a real return for him. You can’t give that type of money to a player that’s not producing from an analytics/efficiency standpoint.
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After Jaylen Brown led them to a top 4 seed in the playoffs. They immediately trade him for an often injured way past his prime 36 year old. I truly don't understand the minds of NBA Gms sometimes.
Jaylen Brown analytically is way overpaid. He lucked out in 2023 making all NBA because several better players didn’t meet the 65 game threshold. That qualified him for a supermax contract. This summer he is eligible for a supermax extension because he made all NBA with Tatum being out. He’s not worth the money. DARKO (NBA analytics algorithm) has him as a $40 million dollar player yet he’s poised to make $57, $61, and $65 million the next 3 seasons. Once he inks that supermax extension he’ll tack on $70 million for each of those years.
This was a salary dump to gain George’s contract which becomes an expiring next summer.
The Cs will go after another big time player (or players) in the summer of 2027 while the 76ers will be on the hook for Jaylen Brown’s supermax for 5 seasons.
re: NBA Offseason Trades, Signings, and FA
Posted by Stidham8 on 6/30/26 at 11:58 am to NighthawkDawg
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A team of Curry and LeBron would be absolutely insane 10 years ago. Hell it's still pretty crazy Rich get richer I guess
It’s a feel good story. They aren’t a serious playoff threat. I doubt they’ll be anything more than competing for the 9-10 seed.
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Didn’t stop us in Dresden, Tokyo, Berlin, etc. Do what you have to do and the world will be better off for it.
If we had the WWII mindset this garbage country would’ve been finished a long time ago. Unfortunately, we are softer than charmin now.
Thune is a pathetic, spineless RINO.
I want him out as much as I wanted Romney gone.
I want him out as much as I wanted Romney gone.
re: Retard on Tucker’s show says the Muslim conquerors weren’t that bad
Posted by Stidham8 on 6/23/26 at 7:23 pm to hawgfaninc
Tucker Carlson is insane
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