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re: Daily Caller writer out with some truth: Neo-Never Trumpism Will Sink DeSantis
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:35 pm to moneyg
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:35 pm to moneyg
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Have you never heard of NeverTrumpers? And, people that aren't NeverTrumpers are using those tactics and that rhetoric and guaranteeing that the "other side" will be alienated.
You probably ought to read this article.
In truth, The Desantis "clan" is every bit as emotional and irrational as they pretend the Trump "clan" is. You've been a great example of it.
Ok
As I said to you yesterday, I think you consistently show a lack of character and the absence of self-awareness, and without some premise of good faith it's not worth it.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:36 pm to Pettifogger
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In my mind, the epitome of Never-Trump are folks like Rick Wilson, Bill Kristen, Ana Navarro, etc. All have given indications that they'd prefer to see Trump win the nomination over DeSantis.
Certainly you admit that it's only because they think they can beat Trump...not because they like Trump more than Desantis. You do admit that right?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:37 pm to Pettifogger
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I think you consistently show a lack of character and the absence of self-awareness, and without some premise of good faith it's not worth it
That’s exactly how I feel about every Desantis bro with the exception of Bunk
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:42 pm to Jjdoc
The article is accurate.
I’ve seen this before. What is happening on this board happened almost to a tee seven years ago. Passionate DeSantis fans are almost carbon copies of passionate Cruz fans from 2016. “Trump can’t win” was a constantly repeated theme by them back in 2016. Most of the criticisms against Trump now are repeats from 2016. Most of the arguments for DeSantis are copies of arguments for Cruz from 2016. The similarities are striking, especially after I dug up and looked at some of the posts from seven years ago.
There is a difference now in that Trump has really been beaten up by Democrat attacks. They’ve gone beyond throwing the kitchen sink at him. However, a lot of the same people noting this fact were also saying “Trump is finished now, he can’t win” after the pussy grabbing tapes and so forth came out seven years ago.
Cruz was highlighted as brilliant, best hope for conservatism, successful as a politician, a good orator...much like DeSantis. Cruz was mocked for being boring and uncharismatic, even off putting with awkwardness...much like DeSantis is now. Trump of course was criticized for being rude, mean, picking fights, etc. Trump attacked Cruz mercilessly and relentlessly (Lyin’ Ted!) and really upset his fans.
The parallels are significant.
There is another argument that is present now, however: that Trump has already had not one but two bites at the apple. Maybe it’s time someone else gets a shot. Especially after Trump’s accumulation of bruising attacks and some legitimate criticisms of his presidency. This is countered by arguments that Trump is even more emboldened and aware of how DC is and therefore will be more effective and even more ferocious a second time around.
One thing that remains a constant: some people love how Trump just upends and wrecks the political establishment and how they insist things are to be, and that is enjoyable to watch as he takes a flamethrower to the place...again.
I’ve seen this before. What is happening on this board happened almost to a tee seven years ago. Passionate DeSantis fans are almost carbon copies of passionate Cruz fans from 2016. “Trump can’t win” was a constantly repeated theme by them back in 2016. Most of the criticisms against Trump now are repeats from 2016. Most of the arguments for DeSantis are copies of arguments for Cruz from 2016. The similarities are striking, especially after I dug up and looked at some of the posts from seven years ago.
There is a difference now in that Trump has really been beaten up by Democrat attacks. They’ve gone beyond throwing the kitchen sink at him. However, a lot of the same people noting this fact were also saying “Trump is finished now, he can’t win” after the pussy grabbing tapes and so forth came out seven years ago.
Cruz was highlighted as brilliant, best hope for conservatism, successful as a politician, a good orator...much like DeSantis. Cruz was mocked for being boring and uncharismatic, even off putting with awkwardness...much like DeSantis is now. Trump of course was criticized for being rude, mean, picking fights, etc. Trump attacked Cruz mercilessly and relentlessly (Lyin’ Ted!) and really upset his fans.
The parallels are significant.
There is another argument that is present now, however: that Trump has already had not one but two bites at the apple. Maybe it’s time someone else gets a shot. Especially after Trump’s accumulation of bruising attacks and some legitimate criticisms of his presidency. This is countered by arguments that Trump is even more emboldened and aware of how DC is and therefore will be more effective and even more ferocious a second time around.
One thing that remains a constant: some people love how Trump just upends and wrecks the political establishment and how they insist things are to be, and that is enjoyable to watch as he takes a flamethrower to the place...again.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:45 pm to Jjdoc
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Neo-Never Trumpism is a political dead end.
Because Trump wouldn't stop hiring them.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 3:53 pm to Adam Banks
You interpret it as those that don't go all in for a man barely even vetted that was a complete poser regarding being MAGA. As looking for sympathy?
The cuck chair fat bastard stuff is comical. Ya'll look like Megyn McCain's husband watching Lady Liberty bent over with no lube.
You are putting the establishment neoconism before America. You are in no way shocked, nor care-- that Ron faked MAGA.
Was it you, Noles, or 14 that said, frick MAGA?
It's the MAGA, economy stupid. And you bet that ya'll look like beta cucks wanting to watch Lady Liberty bent over with no lube, as you high five each other like snobby dorks that despise smelly deplorables.
I can have two lifetimes of wealth but I appreciate the working class. I raised my kids to never be the types that downgrade the waitress or act like snobs no matter how wealthy they were.
To me the intelligent man knows the construction crew is the backbone of America. The snobby Ken & Karen's that think Paul Ryan & Romney are fetching gentlemen are the most ignorant.
The cuck chair fat bastard stuff is comical. Ya'll look like Megyn McCain's husband watching Lady Liberty bent over with no lube.
You are putting the establishment neoconism before America. You are in no way shocked, nor care-- that Ron faked MAGA.
Was it you, Noles, or 14 that said, frick MAGA?
It's the MAGA, economy stupid. And you bet that ya'll look like beta cucks wanting to watch Lady Liberty bent over with no lube, as you high five each other like snobby dorks that despise smelly deplorables.
I can have two lifetimes of wealth but I appreciate the working class. I raised my kids to never be the types that downgrade the waitress or act like snobs no matter how wealthy they were.
To me the intelligent man knows the construction crew is the backbone of America. The snobby Ken & Karen's that think Paul Ryan & Romney are fetching gentlemen are the most ignorant.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:00 pm to cajunangelle
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The cuck chair fat bastard stuff is comical. Ya'll look like Megyn McCain's husband watching Lady Liberty bent over with no lube.
quote:
It's the MAGA, economy stupid. And you bet that ya'll look like beta cucks wanting to watch Lady Liberty bent over with no lube, as you high five each other like snobby dorks that despise smelly deplorables.
Is this a cry for help? Before you say anything, not in the way you're thinking. You really love using this phrase.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:01 pm to Pettifogger
I think Desantis is the better option and more likely to win. I get the pause due to who suppprts him but he has a great track record in Florida I don’t think he is compromised. I think either the GOPe wants him because he is the most viable alternative to Trump or they know they can fracture the party by supporting Desantis and neither him nor Trump will win. They are ok with democrat control and will come back in 2028 with a quishy moderate saying we have to move to the middle to win a national election.
Either way, I’ll happily vote trump or Desantis. If you’re willing to burn the party down if it’s not your candidate then you might as well vote for Biden
Either way, I’ll happily vote trump or Desantis. If you’re willing to burn the party down if it’s not your candidate then you might as well vote for Biden
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:18 pm to cajunangelle
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. And you bet that ya'll look like beta cucks wanting to watch Lady Liberty bent over with no lube, as you high five each other like snobby dorks that despise smelly deplorables.
Listen to yourself.
Would you talk to your grandkids this way?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:22 pm to Adam Banks
I stated it twice to get it through your thick skulls.
*It is duly noted that neither you nor the chan Penchon troll responded.
Do you care that Ron isn't even MAGA?
Does it bother you that he faked MAGA?
*It is duly noted that neither you nor the chan Penchon troll responded.
Do you care that Ron isn't even MAGA?
Does it bother you that he faked MAGA?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:25 pm to cajunangelle
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Do you care that Ron isn't even MAGA?
No
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:26 pm to RobbBobb
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Ken Griffin never gave Trump a dime to run in either election. He is DeSoros chief financial backer
Completely lying again. Both a scumbag and a moron
Open Secrets
He actually gave more than a dime to Trump's PAC in 2018. How about ten million of them? Dumb cuck.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:28 pm to Pettifogger
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As I said to you yesterday, I think you consistently show a lack of character and the absence of self-awareness, and without some premise of good faith it's not worth it.
Nah. You just can't argue the point.
This article lays it out for you. It's not me saying it. It is basically written for you.
DENIAL
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:31 pm to cajunangelle
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I stated it twice to get it through your thick skulls.
*It is duly noted that neither you nor the chan Penchon troll responded.
Do you care that Ron isn't even MAGA?
Does it bother you that he faked MAGA?
You don't care about MAGA or America or anything. Anyone can say "hey I want to make America great again too". Maybe I feel that way because I don't selectively hate my country because of the bozo in the White House.
You're flipping out because daddy may have a challenger. An actual conservative who doesn't give the media ammunition then cries about how the media hates them on their own echo chamber.
Sorry you spent your life savings decorating your trailer with Trump paraphernalia to piss off people you will never interact with in real life. Except the one cat you have that voted for Potato.
Besides, Reagan used the phrase first.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:31 pm to LuckyTiger
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Cruz was highlighted as brilliant, best hope for conservatism, successful as a politician, a good orator...much like DeSantis. Cruz was mocked for being boring and uncharismatic, even off putting with awkwardness...much like DeSantis is now. Trump of course was criticized for being rude, mean, picking fights, etc. Trump attacked Cruz mercilessly and relentlessly (Lyin’ Ted!) and really upset his fans.
The parallels are significant.
Cruz nearly lost in his re-election bid against Beta, and is more unlikable and actually sanctimonious than DeSantis. DeSantis destroyed his opponent in his re-election bid and helped FL turn from purple to solidly red in 2022. I think the parallels are limited.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:42 pm to cajunangelle
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Do you care that Ron isn't even MAGA?
Does it bother you that he faked MAGA?
Give me the most conservative candidate that win.
MAGA equals populism. I put conservatism over populism and it is not close.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:46 pm to jlnoles79
At least you are honest. So how long have you known the MAGA onesie commercial was so over the top Ron was trolling MAGA?
Also tell your tribute band member Penchon, that it was WJC that used MAGA. And to go back to the chans and pimp Q from his trailer he shares with Mama June. With his car with the CoExist, Obama stickers parked out back.
Also tell your tribute band member Penchon, that it was WJC that used MAGA. And to go back to the chans and pimp Q from his trailer he shares with Mama June. With his car with the CoExist, Obama stickers parked out back.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:50 pm to Indefatigable
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Perfect example of the article written.
How so? I have voted for him twice and will do so again if he is the nominee.
That’s my baw!
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:58 pm to moneyg
Yes, or they view DeSantis as the bigger threat to their primary objectives.
I do not think they like Trump.
I do not think they like Trump.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:58 pm to cajunangelle
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least you are honest. So how long have you known the MAGA onesie commercial was so over the top Ron was trolling MAGA?
The commercial was thought of as a joke more than anything.
MAGA doesn't mean anything other than loyalty to Trump now
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