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They absolutely do this, by requiring you to forfeit your amateur status to even enter your name. This isn’t debatable, I feel like I’m taking crazy pills

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And, how does amateur status constrain a player from playing in the NCAA.

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Because one draft is an involuntary draft (baseball) and the other is a voluntary draft. That’s a massive distinction.

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In what way? Your feelings? Legally?

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I promise you it does not help players to return to school like they can for baseball. If that were the case good senior football players would never return to school ever just like they don’t in baseball. Players would leverage for signing bonus money their junior seasons and be forced to take it or return to school to sign for peanuts as a senior. The baseball draft is a horrible model. The only thing I think I’d be open to discuss is a player being able to return to school if he goes undrafted but that would have other Pandora’s box issues as well. The nil and portal world has made things complicated enough as is

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I didn’t suggest it was good for the players. I’m suggesting that the NFL can’t prevent it from happening. And I’m suggesting the NCAA might not be able to prevent it given the recent legal rulings by the courts.

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They do

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…that limits their ability to play somewhere else. I doubt that very seriously. Can you support that at all?

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You don’t enter the draft in baseball.

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You don’t apply for the draft. But the NCAA allows players to return. And that’s the point. The limitation is on the NCAA side…not the NFL side.

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Damn dude, it’s not that hard

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I don't agree that his declaring for the draft would mean the the NFL can prevent the NCAA from allowing a player to play in college. The NCAA, if anyone, would be the party that could try and implement a rule to prevent that. If the NCAA doesn't want to do that, on what basis would the NFL have a claim?

I also don't agree that his declaring for the draft gives the NFL a claim to prevent the player from playing in the NCAA. Maybe there is language specific to that in the paperwork to declare for the draft that I'm not aware of.

Obviously, other leagues allow players to go back to college. And, obviously, the NCAA allows players in other sports to return.

So, what's the limiting factor?

You start to understand why organizations don’t really give any credence to the complaints of its fanbase.

In many cases, their level of understanding of the game is kindergarten level.

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Yea I know it's a bit hard to believe, but everyone gets older and puts on weight. Father time, not the P, is what is truly undefeated.

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She’s probably 2x her ideal weight.

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Why? No one has sued that you don’t have to be enrolled in school and won, to my knowledge.

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Enrolled?

I’m sure he would be enrolled. Why did you bring that up?

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Well he’s probably not academically eligible unless he was in school while training for the combine and draft.

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I’m not sure they could win a case based on academic eligibility.

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So, they didn’t embrace the importance of previous openers? Is that why he’s lost them all? Don’t know if he’s the best man for the job

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:lol:

It would be much better if he said we are going to approach this the exact same way despite our lack of success.

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It’s all part of the plan.

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No.

But people need to remember that they do have power. And there’s not only nothing wrong with having to wield it with your party…it needs to be expected.