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re: Daily Caller writer out with some truth: Neo-Never Trumpism Will Sink DeSantis

Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12798 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:17 pm to
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You’re a moron if you truly believe that


Kudos for not mentioning Paul Ryan
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32841 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:19 pm to
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America First and Trump are not conservatives... we are "Populists" and that is Socialist
Correct

You’re a moron if you truly believe that


Its fact.

Trumpism is basically an early 1960's Democrat.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53436 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:24 pm to
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I'm not sure if this is true or not. When you voted for Obama I seem to recall you talking about how Michelle would likely make a strong POTUS as well.


And there it is. The epitome of what the article is talking about.

What a pathetic attempt. I use to thunk you were better than that.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:46 pm to
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He needs to force the focus to his war against wokeness.



That's not the policy we need, it's a distraction.

We need to decide our fiscal future. Our current path is unsustainable. No one wants to address the hard choices we have to make - on any side, Democrat, DeSantis or Trump.

No one is talking about the limits to which we can raise interest rates to combat inflation due to the increased cost to finance the enormous debt load. Is the plan to simply inflate our way out of the debt?
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27877 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:15 pm to
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Those people are not involved in this at all. This is an entirely new dynamic.

See, this is why I cant take the DeSantis crew seriously

The Republican hatred of Trump is driven by the Lincoln Project crew. Rick Wilson was a player in that group. Its still the same group of grifters like George Conway as it always has been. They are now on some kick to act like they hate DeSantis, to help drive his numbers up like they unwittingly did for Trump

And the fact that you just oretend that you arent a part of a crew of people that would rather making a living off a DIM government than work with America first people, just means you dont care, or dont recognize the landscape for what it is
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79117 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:17 pm to
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They are now on some kick to act like they hate DeSantis, to help drive his numbers up like they unwittingly did for Trump


When you can no longer deny that the Never-Trump crowd now prefers Trump to the alternative, this is what you get
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26056 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:19 pm to
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just means you dont care, or dont recognize the landscape for what it is

The fact that you guys cannot fathom that there are non-Lincoln Project, Trump-voting conservative Republicans who support DeSantis getting the nomination is astounding.

There simply are people in the party who actually want to win the next Presidential election. None of those people pay any attention whatsoever to the Lincoln Project losers, and the LP has zero bearing on their support of DeSantis.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted by fargobison
Member since Aug 2011
4306 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:27 pm to
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Don’t blame me that your boy has the GOPe stink on him. He needs to get rid of it. Breaking news, he won’t because he needs the money and organization.



The same money that Trump is desperate for? Most of these same donors once gave Trump money and likely would again if he is the nominee.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27877 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:37 pm to
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When you can no longer deny that the Never-Trump crowd now prefers Trump to the alternative, this is what you get

You guys keep embarrassing yourselves
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Rick Wilson, co-founder of the Lincoln Project, author of the books "Everything Trump Touches Dies" and "Running Against The Devil: A Plot To Save America from Trump"

Wilson says: “Ron DeSantis won an election in Florida against a three-time loser. With a campaign that was run by the best Republican party in the country, and I mean that because I’m a guy who helped over many years elect many people in the great state of Florida. The quality of our operation here made it look easy.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33161 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:52 pm to
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They wave the American flag and threaten to drive it off a cliff at the same time.


Old Glory is not the GOP. If you think for one second I won't sit on my arse and NOT vote for your beloved uniparty cucks, try me.

I am conservative, not Republican. If you don't understand the difference, then you are no different than the swampfilth that keeps fooling you.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71071 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:54 pm to
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Jjhillary


Everyone needs to keep in mind where all of this bullshite propaganda comes from.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21856 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:56 pm to
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Let me give the Never Trumpers a little advice. The way you beat Trump is on the issues. Their problem is, their ideas are not popular.



Agree

Let's face it, Trump isn't a Republican. He is a populist in messaging and action.

Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72489 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:58 pm to
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Meghan McCain’s husband Ben Domenech provided the latest example of this argument in an article that demanded Ron call Don a “loser.”


ahhhhhhhhhh like we said JJ.

the current batch of cucks are PARROTING talking points like true GOPe. look at all the cucks here calling him a loser. we were right. look where they get their agenda from.

they've all been exposed as frauds. Same clowns posting in 2016.
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
4654 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:02 pm to
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One side has a preference and will not sink the party if it's not realized. They won't pretend that they will, and thus, they won't have a lot of leverage.

The other side will make such threats, and it's unclear if they'll follow through. But they will use the leverage of possibly following through to try and demoralize the other side to avoid getting to that point.

The shrill, hostile, violent, aggressive tone referenced the article is applicable to Trump supporters, as in fact is far more prevalent among Trump supporters. But that's a feature on that side, not a bug, and combined with the above threat to blow it all up, they can behave that way with impunity - as can their candidate - and nobody can really object to it (because the objectors don't have the threat of sabotage to back it up).




I bet you thought this sounded real smart. I don't understand why those on both sides that prefer either Desantis or Trump don't just let it all play out. There's no reason to get in screaming matches with each other on here. Let it play out and let the chips fall where they may. You're just as bad as the Trump supporters you're trying to cleverly disparage here.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28092 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:03 pm to
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There simply are people in the party who actually want to win the next Presidential election. None of those people pay any attention whatsoever to the Lincoln Project losers, and the LP has zero bearing on their support of DeSantis.



Deep down, some of these MTGA NPCs know this to be true. They are just spinning like usual and trying to solve for helping Trump get the nomination. If that means they make up shite, so be it.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27877 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Most of these same donors once gave Trump money

Another lie by the DeSoros crew

Ken Griffin never gave Trump a dime to run in either election. He is DeSoros chief financial backer

Griffin did however give a million to Obama, $500k to Biden, and in 2016 to Rubio and Jeb
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28092 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:08 pm to
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I am conservative, not Republican. If you don't understand the difference, then you are no different than the swampfilth that keeps fooling you.


And you have your fellow Trumpers on here disavowing conservatism, describing themselves as populist, and cheering on Trump's left wing views on issues like entitlement reform.

Trump is running, and has run, to the left of DeSantis on social issues and fiscal issues. Don't fall for these closet commies' bullshite.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71071 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:10 pm to
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RobbBro

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Another lie by the DeSoros crew




You literally lie every time you talk about Florida.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3263 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:20 pm to
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I can't believe people still think Trump will one day start acting like a rational human being.


By rational do you mean like a typical politician??

I laugh my arse off when i see the people that said Trump embarrasses us on a national stage with the things he says...only to have potato head come in and say hold my pudding, watch this man.

You people think y'all are such righteous godly perfect people. LMFAO. This is a dog fight against people that will make up the most ridiculous shite at the most ridiculous levels and you expect the man to just sit back and take the "high road" like those losers Romney & McCain.

Grow some fricking balls and stop acting like a women and letting your emotions dictate your thinking.
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