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re: Counterpoint to all of the sky screaming about surveillance and flock cameras etc

Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:20 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140189 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:20 am to
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Counterpoint to all of the sky screaming about surveillance and flock cameras etc

Imagine how many crimes would go unsolved if nobody had security cameras? Imagine how lawless it would be out there.
Allie Rice's family can imagine.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24928 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:20 am to
He isn’t an honest person
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32895 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:24 am to
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That is a different claim than you originally made isn't it.


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Our laws don’t provide for a right to privacy when you go out driving in the public. Anyone can take a picture of you or your car.


Nope
Posted by BigAL Golesh
Toomer's Corner
Member since Apr 2026
501 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:24 am to
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sidewalkside
So you got embarrassed in the other threads and felt the need to start a new one?

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Imagine how lawless it would be out there.

The level of stupidity that you have is breath taking. IMAGINE??? I have literally lived through a world without security cameras for the majority of my life.

Removing my privacy and allowing the gov to spy on me at will doesnt make me safer. It makes me a slave. A prisoner being watched at all times
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66212 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:27 am to
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So, why not lump even more on is what you are gonna say. The fact that this is true gives you ample reason to just surveil even more? Even though everything you listed here would need a warrant for government to access, you want something even more that they do not need a warrant to access.

He's not here to make sense. He's here to shill.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
23011 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:31 am to
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24928 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:40 am to
He is pulling what a mayor of a Texas town that voted 3-2 to remove flock did. He got pissed that citizens didn’t like it and try to put a resolution to ban all technology from the town.

Also it’s telling that flock employee that have no problem filming everyone didn’t enjoy a journalist going to their office parking lot and filming them.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56221 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:45 am to
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Imagine how many crimes would go unsolved if nobody had security cameras? Imagine how lawless it would be out there.

Imagine how many people would be convicted if there wasn't surveillance footage to corroborate their side of the event.



How many copies of George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm do you own?
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19902 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:47 am to
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Imagine how many crimes would go unsolved if nobody had security cameras? Imagine how lawless it would be out there.



Root cause is horrible parenting. Flock cameras do not prevent anything and should be illegal under Fourth Amendment.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
24341 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:49 am to
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Imagine how many crimes would go unsolved if nobody had security cameras? Imagine how lawless it would be out there.

Imagine how many people would be convicted if there wasn't surveillance footage to corroborate their side of the event.


A society willing to give up privacy for liberty will soon lose its liberty. Everyone should be contacting their elected reps NOW to stop this nonsense. Tell everyone you know to do the very same thing and tell everyone they know ...............
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12318 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:51 am to
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Imagine how many crimes would go unsolved if nobody had security cameras? Imagine how lawless it would be out there. Imagine how many people would be convicted if there wasn't surveillance footage to corroborate their side of the event.

Imagine how many crimes we can solve if everyone had a chip inserted into their left wrist and tracked everything everyone did! Yay for safety!
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
15145 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 3:48 pm to
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Imagine how many crimes would go unsolved if nobody had security cameras? Imagine how lawless it would be out there.


Something like 2/3 of murders in New Orleans, which has cameras everywhere, don't even result in an arrest. How? With cameras everywhere? Guess they'll just use the cameras to catch the people they really want to catch "breaking the law."
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13691 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 3:54 pm to
They don’t seem to be leading to many arrests in high crime areas. I have yet to hear of flock cameras identifying those involved in “teen” takeovers.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70851 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:00 pm to
The police already have tons of security cameras. They refuse to use them to arrest murderers, rapists, and thieves. They do use them to arrest conservative protesters. Why would I trust them with more surveillance resources?
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3430 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:14 pm to
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there is a difference between private security systems which require a warrant or permission to access and government surveillance when you have cops or other random government employees following your every move....


You should be far more concerned about the private companies use of gather data about you that you do not know about, or care to know about. Private companies have far more data about you the government because there are restriction on the government data collection and use.

There is very limited restriction on private company data collection and use and that data is used against you hundreds of times a day. Why do you think nearly all social media platforms are free? Because the data they are collecting from you is your payment for the service. They then take you data, process a thousand ways and sell it to other businesses to use against you. How about those apps the tell you where lowest gas prices are? You think they are doing that out of the kind of their heart? Heck no, they are collecting data about you and since you have the phone on as you drive they are collecting data about your driving habits they then provide to insurance companies for a fee.

Carry on being worried about the government though.
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