Ramblin Wreck

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The one with the guy from Extreme, everyone’s favorite VH album

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I didn’t even remember there was a third Van Halen lead singer. Did any of the songs sound like TV themes?

I’d have to go with this -


Incidentally, did you know he produced a Van Halen album?

University of Northern Colorado



Every Thangs Gonna Be All White!!!

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Humans are flawed.

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From a Biblical standpoint, how many miracles did the Israelites see coming out of Egypt and during their journey? They still worshiped the golden calf.

In the modern world, how many people when under stress as a POW or civilian captured, betrayed their families, lovers, or country to avoid pain?

On another point brought up on this thread, arguing that Paul and the apostles didn’t exist is really going out of your way not to believe something. Christianity spread throughout Europe and there is not any push back from historians that the churches were started by Paul. There is a lot of archeological and historical evidence that backs this up and we have his writings. Paul and Luke, who documented Paul’s journeys in the letter called Acts, both discuss Paul’s interactions with the disciples.

Regarding the existence of Jesus, Paul was thrown in prison several times and was prevented from visiting churches, due to non-Christian Jews creating charges against him. Why did they create charges? Because they refused to accept that Jesus was the Christ. The beef that the Jews had against Paul and the disciples was not that Jesus didn’t exist, it was their proclamation that he was the Christ. The point of the video is, why go through all of what they did for someone that didn’t exist or was a scam?

Believing Paul existed, but not the other people referenced in his and Luke’s account, would be like someone in a couple thousand years believing there was a Thomas Jefferson but not believing the other founding fathers existed. You may not accept that Jesus was the Christ or that all the events noted about the disciples is true, but arguing they didn’t exist is really going out of your way to discredit everything about Christianity that you can.

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I don’t know that early church fathers would constitute secular authorities

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I do remember that Eusebius’ history includes a lot of direct quotes from Josephus, but I don’t know how early the writings of Josephus were possibly modified.

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There is little to no non-Biblical historical evidence for the "post-resurrection" lives of the overwhelming majority of the apostles.

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That is incorrect. There were many books written by scholars and early Christians in the next couple hundred years after the resurrection of Christ. I have a book that are scribed lectures given by Origen of Alexandria while he taught at the Christian School of Caesarea that he founded sometime in early 200 AD. There are many other books you can find that were written earlier than that where the writings of the New Testament and the people are the subject. That just happens to be one that I bought and have studied. Even non-Christian historians like Josephus discuss Jesus and the disciples.

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Beaumont people are going to Lumberton

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True but I will add that Lumberton is an odd place. My kids went to school there. I remember walking in the high school and seeing the bulletin board announcing where every senior was going to college. It was a surprisingly small percentage with almost all that were enrolling in college choosing Lamar, SFA or McNeese. There are a lot of swingers in Lumberton oddly enough in the nicer residential neighborhoods. Everyone I knew there could name the local swingers on their street. We were definitely not the type to be interested and were never invited anyway. LOL

I lived there for a long time. It has all the negatives of Louisiana with the benefit of no state income tax. The people there are a lot more into hunting and fishing than people in the two Louisiana cities I lived in. Pretty much everyone drives a pickup and a lot of your neighbors will own boats. Youth sports are big and every time a restaurant opens it will be packed for the first month because there isn’t much else exciting going on. There isn’t much of a presence of young college aged people other than plant engineers so it is hard for the plants to retain young college graduates. I’ve always described Beaumont as a smaller version of Baton Rouge in a lot of ways. Not ascetically pleasing, lots of oil and gas industry, not much to do, university near downtown surrounded by high crime, excessive traffic for the size, etc.

Five pages and no Epstein’s Lunar Base? Bill and Hillary would be doing astronaut training so they could go.

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I can formally say anyone here being negative about dogs here on TD is a big no no.

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My dog has a great life and we enjoy her company. In fact we got her from the pound when she was about to be put to sleep. I just think it is overboard to refer to her as our child. It seems like a mockery to put my kids on the same level as the dog.