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Counterpoint to all of the sky screaming about surveillance and flock cameras etc

Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:27 am
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
4686 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:27 am
Imagine how many crimes would go unsolved if nobody had security cameras? Imagine how lawless it would be out there.

Imagine how many people would be convicted if there wasn't surveillance footage to corroborate their side of the event.

Posted by Zahrim
McCamey Texas
Member since Mar 2009
8208 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:40 am to
there is a difference between private security systems which require a warrant or permission to access and government surveillance when you have cops or other random government employees following your every move....
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
4686 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:46 am to
quote:

there is a difference between private security systems which require a warrant or permission to access and government surveillance when you have cops or other random government employees following your every move....


Do you have even the slightest clue about how much data about you is tracked in real time from your credit cards, to your mobile devices, to your ISP usage, to web surfing, to your car to literally everything you do and touch on a daily basis? Picking out one thing, like Flock, to be selectively enraged about is retarded.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19996 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:46 am to
No crime on our dime ? You think you’re not tracked now as a law biding citizen?
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8528 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Imagine how many people would be convicted if there wasn't surveillance footage to corroborate their side of the event.



Assumes exculpatory evidence would be disclosed......
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23309 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:50 am to
Imagine being Britain.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6477 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:51 am to
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Do you have even the slightest clue about how much data about you is tracked in real time from your credit cards, to your mobile devices, to your ISP usage, to web surfing, to your car to literally everything you do and touch on a daily basis

So, why not lump even more on is what you are gonna say. The fact that this is true gives you ample reason to just surveil even more? Even though everything you listed here would need a warrant for government to access, you want something even more that they do not need a warrant to access.

Good little bootlicker
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 9:52 am
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32895 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:54 am to
quote:

there is a difference between private security systems which require a warrant or permission to access and government surveillance when you have cops or other random government employees following your every move....


Our laws don’t provide for a right to privacy when you go out driving in the public. Anyone can take a picture of you or your car.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20370 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Do you have even the slightest clue about how much data about you is tracked in real time from your credit cards, to your mobile devices, to your ISP usage, to web surfing, to your car to literally everything you do and touch on a daily basis? Picking out one thing, like Flock, to be selectively enraged about is retarded.


Add in the IRS.
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 9:56 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6477 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:00 am to
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Our laws don’t provide for a right to privacy when you go out driving in the public

Wrong
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32895 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:05 am to
There’s no law against me taking a picture of your license plate.
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
2399 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:06 am to


quote:

Do you have even the slightest clue about how much data about you is tracked in real time from your credit cards, to your mobile devices, to your ISP usage, to web surfing, to your car to literally everything you do and touch on a daily basis? Picking out one thing, like Flock, to be selectively enraged about is retarded.



If everything is already known about me, why are the flock cameras needed?
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
39947 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:07 am to
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There’s no law against me taking a picture of your license plate.


There's more to it than that commie
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86365 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:08 am to
Your point is valid--I just happen to disagree with it. There is always a personal liberty-security trade to be made. I side with maximizing liberty-accepting the risk and keeping The State as far out of our lives as is REASONABLY possible. But your point is valid.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40781 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:12 am to
But almost most unsolved crimes could be solved by this system and they are not.


If we had good results with road rage crimes (or that arkansas hellcat that the cops cannot catch) then I’d feel better about it.


Furthermore, DAs are letting the bad guys go.


We cannot behave as a government and cannot have nice things.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7176 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:13 am to
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Imagine how many crimes would go unsolved if nobody had security cameras? Imagine how lawless it would be out there.


Like I said in the other thread....Let's put GPS and a camera on everyone. That way all crimes will always be solved and we can significantly reduce the police needed to solve them.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12740 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Imagine how many crimes would go unsolved if nobody had security cameras? Imagine how lawless it would be out there. Imagine how many people would be convicted if there wasn't surveillance footage to corroborate their side of the event.


Somehow we made it very far without society collapsing due to lack of real time govt surveillance cameras
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24927 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:15 am to
Kinda funny he is supporting Gov surveillance considering how much he hates Trump and those that vote for him. So he wants Trump and his supporters to be able to use all of this to hunt down political enemies.

We all know that is the actual end game, it happens in the Islamic republic of britian currently.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94044 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Imagine how many crimes would go unsolved if nobody had security cameras? Imagine how lawless it would be out there.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6477 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:19 am to
quote:

There’s no law against me taking a picture of your license plate

That is a different claim than you originally made isn't it.
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