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re: 1/2 ton 4X4 Truck towing capacity and other truck-related observations
Posted on 7/21/22 at 9:24 am to Pouldo26
Posted on 7/21/22 at 9:24 am to Pouldo26
I agree. The Titan will pull a house. 5.0 Ford also. Not sure I would want to be pulling anything with alot more weight than the truck without brakes.
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 9:26 am to LEASTBAY
What did they pull that bar down with, in Porkeys ?
Posted on 7/21/22 at 9:43 am to EF Hutton
Most of the 1/2 ton trucks today have the same towing capacity as an f-250 in the 90s. I don’t think you need a 3/4 ton to pull a 5,500 lb load one weekend a month. If you want one, the experience will certainly be nicer in a 3/4 ton. If you have trailer brakes and aren’t in a hurry, you can pull a lot more than you should with a 1/2 ton. Good brakes, air bags to level it out, balanced boat so the tongue weight is reasonable, a good trailer brake controller, all those will make the whole experience better.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 10:19 am to Eli Goldfinger
I went down this rabbit hole when I bought my truck. The big difference in rating is the gear ratio and the features on the truck. They will net out the truck's weight to determine towing capacity. The more features you add, the lower the capacity (a big one is a sunroof). Like another poster, i have a Ram hemi w/ 3.92 rear end. It is 11k rated even with all the bells and whistles. That said, towing a heavy boat up a bill, that sucker is working. Get 7-9 mpg pulling boat most of the time.
eta your link only factors in a standard model. it does not contemplate added features, like in my case, the lower gearing. the only place to tell your true capacity is on the door sticker.
eta your link only factors in a standard model. it does not contemplate added features, like in my case, the lower gearing. the only place to tell your true capacity is on the door sticker.
This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 7/21/22 at 10:25 am to Eli Goldfinger
Note of caution with the F150. The eco boost hates to tow and will get 9-10 mpg at best with that load. Also have been some engine trouble when working those models hard
Posted on 7/21/22 at 10:40 am to LEASTBAY
I have a Titan XD and pull a 30' Camper from time to time. Never had a single issue. MPG's arent great but thats to be expected
Posted on 7/21/22 at 10:46 am to ChuckUFarley
My Titan gets 11-12mpg towing my boat. I think my F150 5.0 got a little better. Both did great, Titan definitely has more power though.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 11:07 am to Eli Goldfinger
The tow ratings wars are just idiotic.
Not only do they require a byzantine set of options package, but who actually needs that much towing?
And if you are towing 11,0000lbs with any regularity, you need a 2500 or 3500.
This is about a lot more than nominal capacity, it's about brakes, cooling, frame size, etc...
One could tow a 11,000 trailer on flat ground with a Ford Taurus. Towing is not about towing, it's about stopping and turning.
Not only do they require a byzantine set of options package, but who actually needs that much towing?
And if you are towing 11,0000lbs with any regularity, you need a 2500 or 3500.
This is about a lot more than nominal capacity, it's about brakes, cooling, frame size, etc...
One could tow a 11,000 trailer on flat ground with a Ford Taurus. Towing is not about towing, it's about stopping and turning.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 11:49 am to bayoudude
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Note of caution with the F150. The eco boost hates to tow and will get 9-10 mpg at best with that load. Also have been some engine trouble when working those models hard
My Camper averages about 5400lbs weighed on CAT scale, my F150 eco loves to pull that thing. Almost effortless. Got about 10-11 MPG going into mountains in AK last October, also it does not lose HP like the Coyote at elevation.
BIL was Ford Engineer, he says most of all let the eco boost idle and cool after running hard and it will be much happier.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 12:11 pm to bayoudude
I had a 2014 F150 with 3.5EB, heavy tow package, Crew Cab Lariat, and 3.55 gears. I bought my JD 990 (4wd with front loader and bush hog) out of Northern Alabama, went to Birmingham and turned north for a few miles. My 18ft trailer with tractor, loader, and cutter all came home at 70-75 and it pulled it great.
I did lock it out of 6th and put in the tow haul mode, it got about 11 on that trip coming home. Even though it got 11 most any truck out there would be about the same or worse, there's only so much energy in a gallon of gas
I did lock it out of 6th and put in the tow haul mode, it got about 11 on that trip coming home. Even though it got 11 most any truck out there would be about the same or worse, there's only so much energy in a gallon of gas
Posted on 7/21/22 at 12:34 pm to Eli Goldfinger
You have the Ram numbers wrong, but are also very correct in general. Most don't realize what you pointed out and will be offended.
My Ram is a Bighorn crew cab 4x4, 5.7 bed, HEMI, and weak 3:21 rear end. Towing max is 8040lbs. Same truck with the 3:92 has a max tow of 10,230 pounds
My Ram is a Bighorn crew cab 4x4, 5.7 bed, HEMI, and weak 3:21 rear end. Towing max is 8040lbs. Same truck with the 3:92 has a max tow of 10,230 pounds
Posted on 7/21/22 at 12:44 pm to bayoudude
quote:My 3.5 is the best pulling gasser I have owned.
The eco boost hates to tow
Posted on 7/21/22 at 12:58 pm to cardoin
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Moab with my F-150 ecoboost
Every time we head West to wheel, I hear the same crap from all the F150 Ecoboost guys...."Tows awesome, TQ like a diesel, 15MPG" and every time I end up making them so mad they want to fight. Most of us have 20-22' car haulers and 2 doors on tons, probably a tad heavier than your set up. They always fall behind the rest of us with 250's.
You can tow 5K with a 1/2 ton no problem. If you want to drive 75-80MPH, stop, go and change lanes in a hurry you'll be disappointed. Running your junk 4500-5000RPM's constantly is for the birds.
At a certain point it's about being comfortable while you're towing.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 1:16 pm to lsujro
quote:
I went down this rabbit hole when I bought my truck. The big difference in rating is the gear ratio and the features on the truck. They will net out the truck's weight to determine towing capacity. The more features you add, the lower the capacity (a big one is a sunroof). Like another poster, i have a Ram hemi w/ 3.92 rear end. It is 11k rated even with all the bells and whistles. That said, towing a heavy boat up a bill, that sucker is working. Get 7-9 mpg pulling boat most of the time.
Weight affects payload not really towing capacity. Payload is a crock of shite anyway. It's based on a class system by the DOT.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 1:52 pm to tadman
You need a CDL to tow what many of the HD trucks are rated for.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 1:58 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
OP is using old or bad info. Any new modern 1/2 ton with a V8 and tow package, which are readily available, will handle that weight no problem. Trailer brakes and transmission cooler are your friends.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 2:25 pm to GREENHEAD22
I bought a used XL work truck with the 6.2L gas and 4wd.
It was a fantastic price and in great shape. Pulls everything I want.
Th one knock is the cab bushings have started to deteriorate.
My XL package came with power everything and vinyl floors. Not like your old XL work trucks.
It was a fantastic price and in great shape. Pulls everything I want.
Th one knock is the cab bushings have started to deteriorate.
My XL package came with power everything and vinyl floors. Not like your old XL work trucks.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 2:27 pm to thejudge
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Th one knock is the cab bushings have started to deteriorate.
replace them. i replaced my f250's. go OEM though.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 2:35 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Ford F-150…
“Best in class towing capacity” at around 12K.
Ford pushes their 3.5L’s hp and torque. However, most of the F150 lineup I have looked at with the 3.5L has a max rating of 6K-7K.
I have came across a few of the 5.0 equipped crew cab models with 9K maximums, but the norm seems to be 7K.
IS the max rating of 6k-7k assuming bumper pull without a tow package? My Ranger with a 2.3L is rated for 7k lbs since I have the tow package. I believe they're only rated for 3 or 4k if you're pulling off of the bumper. I never tow anywhere close to that so I wouldn't know if those numbers are accurate.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:33 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I have the 5.7 hemi in a SUV and it tows 8,950lbs. I made sure to find the configuration rated to tow the most. The 4X4 option only lost a few hundred pounds, probably from added weight of the 4X4. Other options drop it to 6000lbs. It towed my 23ft bay boat just fine, almost like it wasn't there.
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