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re: Who here still thinks AI is garbage and worthless and won't take jobs?
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:06 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:06 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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This isn't something that's going to just effect big law. Firms up and down the range are going to see less need to hire new associates and eventually clients are going to prefer firms that are open about passing the "AI savings" onto the customer in the form of lower bills. I already know a few partners at small/midsize firms that plan on hiring fewer associates that they normally would given their workload because current AI tools are good enough now that they can get a better return on investing in AI tools vs hiring a new law grad.
I’m sure it is specialty dependent, but I feel like for the majority of attorneys, direct client interaction and court time are among the biggest time sinks. And beyond that, it’s the primary thing “partners” don’t want to spend their time doing. Services like Ayla (for Louisiana) have already been around for years to help automate rote paralegal level work. Is boutique motion practice really burning up that much time for the majority of attorneys?
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:06 pm to sidewalkside
I did a deep dive with it asking questions I’m a SME on. I’ve found that it gives a lot of erroneous data and values good answers over accurate ones. My biggest fear is not the loss of jobs per se but becoming lazy in research and accuracy because the computer says so.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:08 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Is legal research/analysis/drafting really that token hungry? Maybe I'm wrong but I'd imagine it's at the lower end of the scale vs more STEM applications.
If you want it to be correct, yes.
I had it make slides for an all day tax training for me a few weeks ago. It is powerful in the fact that it got 6 or 8 hours of content formatted onto slides and actually did a good job.
The problem is the actual content was total slop. It ranged from pretty ambiguous to just straight up wrong. For it to pull the content and get it onto slides took about 30 minutes and I had to run it 3 times to get it decent enough I could edit the content.
It took a little over an hour for formatting and a few more hours of content edit, which is still way less than a staff person starting from scratch and it’s indisputably better at the “artsy” part of the presentation, but it’s a long, long way from actually replacing any of my staff.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:08 pm to sidewalkside
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Now that we are 6+ months later and AI continues to spread how is everyone feeling about it's future?
That it’s currently poopoo and garbage and really only good to replace google searches online.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:10 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
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will take some jobs. It will create others.
Guess which one will vastly outweigh the other
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:20 pm to Joshjrn
Keep laughing. AI could easily wipe out 50% of lawyers.
The thieves already use AI for public filings. Get rid of them and let AI handle all research.
Then purge the courts AI can mediate better than humans.
The thieves already use AI for public filings. Get rid of them and let AI handle all research.
Then purge the courts AI can mediate better than humans.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:21 pm to PUB
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Keep laughing. AI could easily wipe out 50% of lawyers. The thieves already use AI for public filings. Get rid of them and let AI handle all research. Then purge the courts AI can mediate better than humans.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:31 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
You won’t lose your job to AI, you will lose it to someone who knows it
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:38 pm to sidewalkside
I don’t have a job so I don’t think it will take mine unless it retires
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:47 pm to sidewalkside
The biggest difference between a tool and a worker is the boss tells the worker to perform a task, and the worker uses a tool to perform the task. The tool cannot perform the task on its own.
Task Examples:
Take orders from our customers.
Deliver the items in this truck to our customers.
Draft a contract for our customer.
Draft a training document for our workforce.
Create and optimize this chemical process in our facility.
Manage this project to meet project requirements.
Create a 30-second commercial for our customer.
Draft an investment plan for our customer.
Diagnose and prescribe a treatment for our customer.
In the Agricultural, Industrial, and Technology Revolutions, the methods and tools changed. The workers did not change. The farm workers were still the farm workers. The factory workers were still the factory workers. The tech workers were still the tech workers.
Mechanized farming, factories, and computers are all tools. They generally did not replace workers because the boss cannot tell the tools to perform a task. The boss tells the worker to perform the task, and the workers uses a tool to perform the task.
But what happens to workers when the boss can tell the tool to perform the task? With AI, the boss can, or soon will be able to, tell the tool to perform the task, at least until the boss gets replaced by AI.
Task Examples:
Take orders from our customers.
Deliver the items in this truck to our customers.
Draft a contract for our customer.
Draft a training document for our workforce.
Create and optimize this chemical process in our facility.
Manage this project to meet project requirements.
Create a 30-second commercial for our customer.
Draft an investment plan for our customer.
Diagnose and prescribe a treatment for our customer.
The United States employs over 3.5 million truck drivers, which represents about 2.6% of the total full-time workforce of 131.8 million workers. Beyond truck driving, the broader category of transportation and transportation-related occupations employs more than 13.3 million people, accounting for roughly 9.1% of all U.S. workers. That's just the transportation industry.
Harvey can take a thick litigation claims file and draft an Answer and discovery requests. It can draft a litigation report in a user-prescribed format that not only provides timelines and summarizes all of the relevant details in minutes, it can also provide relevant next steps. It can analyze and summarize a folder full of deposition transcripts and discovery responses and note missing material and weaknesses. You can take the claims file and reports to Protégé and generate dispositive motions, motions in limine, and pretrial orders. I don't see much need for my paralegal or associates.
Task Examples:
Take orders from our customers.
Deliver the items in this truck to our customers.
Draft a contract for our customer.
Draft a training document for our workforce.
Create and optimize this chemical process in our facility.
Manage this project to meet project requirements.
Create a 30-second commercial for our customer.
Draft an investment plan for our customer.
Diagnose and prescribe a treatment for our customer.
In the Agricultural, Industrial, and Technology Revolutions, the methods and tools changed. The workers did not change. The farm workers were still the farm workers. The factory workers were still the factory workers. The tech workers were still the tech workers.
Mechanized farming, factories, and computers are all tools. They generally did not replace workers because the boss cannot tell the tools to perform a task. The boss tells the worker to perform the task, and the workers uses a tool to perform the task.
But what happens to workers when the boss can tell the tool to perform the task? With AI, the boss can, or soon will be able to, tell the tool to perform the task, at least until the boss gets replaced by AI.
Task Examples:
Take orders from our customers.
Deliver the items in this truck to our customers.
Draft a contract for our customer.
Draft a training document for our workforce.
Create and optimize this chemical process in our facility.
Manage this project to meet project requirements.
Create a 30-second commercial for our customer.
Draft an investment plan for our customer.
Diagnose and prescribe a treatment for our customer.
The United States employs over 3.5 million truck drivers, which represents about 2.6% of the total full-time workforce of 131.8 million workers. Beyond truck driving, the broader category of transportation and transportation-related occupations employs more than 13.3 million people, accounting for roughly 9.1% of all U.S. workers. That's just the transportation industry.
Harvey can take a thick litigation claims file and draft an Answer and discovery requests. It can draft a litigation report in a user-prescribed format that not only provides timelines and summarizes all of the relevant details in minutes, it can also provide relevant next steps. It can analyze and summarize a folder full of deposition transcripts and discovery responses and note missing material and weaknesses. You can take the claims file and reports to Protégé and generate dispositive motions, motions in limine, and pretrial orders. I don't see much need for my paralegal or associates.
This post was edited on 8/12/26 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:48 pm to MSMHater
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AI creators and execs, at least in the short term, will price it so high that the cost benefit of replacing a living work force with AI won't offer the ROI CEOs will want. Especially with the pricing models the AI companies are rolling out to Corps.
Companies have already spent so much, have cut jobs to offset the spending, and now are struggling since the AI isn’t there yet to do the work.
But that’s not slowing down AI spending at this point
Posted on 8/12/26 at 6:05 pm to sidewalkside
AI will be the downfall of humanity, one way or another. Hollywood told us this 40+ years ago in the 80’s. Anyone born in the 80’s should know that going all in with AI isn’t a good idea.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 6:13 pm to sidewalkside
Actual advanced AI tools (not free ChatGPT) will likely replace the jobs of many lower level roles and functions.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 7:22 pm to Freight Joker
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We’re pacing for 65% growth with about a 5% reduction in overhead for 2026. AI accelerated our company by 5 years in the span of one month of integration.
What are you using it for?
Posted on 8/12/26 at 7:26 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Firms that used to need 10 attorneys for their workload will now only need 6 or 7.
Does this mean they reduce their percentage fee/take? It’s only relevant, right?
Not a f-ing chance! They’ll just get more billboards!
Posted on 8/12/26 at 7:29 pm to greenbean
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If a large law firm needs 5 junior attorneys to do research and briefs, the firm will eventually get to the point it only needs one or two to double check the work of AI.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 7:38 pm to kywildcatfanone
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it won't create as many as it eliminates
It's going to create a ton of work and therefore jobs for whoever wants one.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 7:48 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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are you more inclined to pay a few grand a year for AI tools
Depends on the size of the firm, but AI packages are significantly more expensive than that, especially if you go over in usage. Plenty of orgs are figuring this out the hard way and their finance teams are realizing the salary of an offshored contractor is more cost effective.
It’ll take a few more years and additional competition in the market to right-size pricing. In unison, orgs will have better forecasting models of their actual AI usage and that’s really when low-skilled white collar labor will be impacted.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 9:24 pm to sidewalkside
One of the main goals of technology in the business world is efficiency. With that comes less jobs. Yes, it will take jobs to manage AI, but I assume you will lose many more. Companies aren’t wanting to employ people that no longer have a valued skill set.
Humans will be expected to do more. Look what email and text has done. You used to be able to leave work at the office and go home. Now, your phone can go off at any minute and you’ll be expected to adjust accordingly.
People in power, be it financial or appointed, have proven to fail the average person time and again. A minor example of this is what you are seeing with flock cameras…those in power cannot be trusted to use the tool correctly.
Humans will be expected to do more. Look what email and text has done. You used to be able to leave work at the office and go home. Now, your phone can go off at any minute and you’ll be expected to adjust accordingly.
People in power, be it financial or appointed, have proven to fail the average person time and again. A minor example of this is what you are seeing with flock cameras…those in power cannot be trusted to use the tool correctly.
Posted on 8/12/26 at 9:32 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
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It will take some jobs. It will create others.
You sound dumb. Get back to me in 15 years. It's going to take a lot more away than it creates. My wife does ultrasound at UNC and they are already talking about getting rid of positions because of an AI robot they are getting that will scan patients. That is just one of many examples coming.
This post was edited on 8/12/26 at 9:42 pm
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