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“If I'd lived in Roman times, I'd have lived in Rome. Where else? Today America is the Roman Empire and New York is Rome itself.”
- John Lennon
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Funny what happens when you get the WOKE out of the system. Thanks Governor Landry!!

Now if only the players would realize this and quit buying into the propaganda.
Or perhaps you and Governor Landry can use your brains and try to understand that there never was a problem with the system and certainly not a problem with the players.

Perhaps you and Governor Landry can quit trying to keep the job by trying to manufacture a problem where one doesn't exist, and instead focus on doing the job by solving the actual problems that do exist.
Everyone knows Kiffin. Not nearly as many fans know Sumrall or Chesney. Media can talk about Kiffin, and their listeners know who they are talking about. Program managers don't want the talent to talk about people or programs that lack interest. Everyone knows Kiffin.

Kiffin has a history of dramatic departures: Raiders, Tennessee, USC, Alabama. Kiffin is known as a black hat. Media can say ugly things about Kiffin, and their listeners will generally nod in agreement.

Talking about Kiffin allows media to get passionate, get on their high horse, shout from the moral high ground, and generally get excited and raise their voice. That kind of energy generally makes for good programming.

Paul Finebaum has had it out for Kiffin at least since Kiffin left Tennessee.
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Indiana should be a lesson. Great coaching >Great talent.

Coaching matters. Schools don't recruit themselves and talent doesn't automatically equal wins.
Just imagine how good Indiana would be if they had a Heisman candidate playing QB for them.

Just imagine how good Indiana would be if their coach could have added their second-best rusher (best last night) and second-best receiver and a host of other starters from his former team. Honestly, what if Cignetti could have merged the best talent of two teams?

But hey, I don't want to throw off your Sunday morning musings with facts.
Since you asked . . .


Don't Hire Orgeron to Coach the Defensive Line
Orgeron's best DL coaching days are far behind him. More importantly, Orgeron should not be anywhere near the defensive staff. Orgeron's voice far exceeds his mental capacity, especially with his long-time friend as the head coach. We don't want O trying to undermine the DC's scheme choice. LSU does NOT need one coach nagging to run the 4-3 when the rest of the defensive staff wants to run a more modern and flexible defense.

Don't Hire Orgeron to Be the Recruiting Coordinator
I don't know how anyone can want O to be the recruiting coordinator. He is NOT a person to be in charge of, or to organize, anything as important as recruiting. He has never been known as an evaluator of talent or a person who can build a balanced roster.

Orgeron might have been a terrific closer in special situations; he certainly has a lot of energy, but he's not a coordinator. He might have been okay dealing under the table and getting HS players laid twenty years ago, but that's not how it works any more. The entire paradigm has changed.

There are other far more organized and intelligent people already in the program that are better qualified to be the recruiting coordinator.

Maybe Don't Let Orgeron in the Door at All
Orgeron has a long history of bad decisions. Orgeron has a long history of creating bad situations and failing to make the correct choices. Given Kiffin's history, LSU does not want or need an enabler for Kiffin. Hiring Orgeron would be like inviting a drinking buddy to live with a reformed alcoholic.

Kiffin is trying to get better. Kiffin is turning his life around. Kiffin found a sense of continuity and peace at Ole Miss. LSU does not need to bring in a person who is going to jeopardize all of the maturity and stability Kiffin has achieved.

Again, Orgeron's voice far exceeds his mental capacity, especially with his long-time friend as the head coach. LSU does not need a coach like Orgeron underfoot. LSU had to pay him $16 million to make him go away the last time. There is far too much at stake to risk it by bringing in a drinking buddy. Drunk Uncle Ed can visit, but you cannot let him stay.


I don't hate Orgeron.

Orgeron came to LSU after Les Miles hired Steve Ensminger.

Orgeron was at LSU when Les Miles hired Dave Aranda.

Orgeron was at LSU when Bill Busch, Jim Burrow, and Joe Burrow's brothers convinced Joe to go to LSU instead of perennial powerhouse Cincinnati.

Orgeron was at LSU when Steve Ensminger met with Joe Brady and Steve Ensminger decided LSU needed to hire Brady to help with the offense.

Orgeron was at LSU when Dave Aranda was able to overcome a plague of early season injuries to guide LSU's defense in an undefeated season.

Orgeron was at LSU when Steve Ensminger and Joe Brady guided LSU's offense in an undefeated season. Orgeron didn't understand the offense, but he watched if from the LSU sidelines.

I suppose some folks don't appreciate Orgeron's inability to hire coordinators, but perhaps those people don't understand the tricky nuance of a Matt Canada offense, or the aggressive nature of a Bo Pelini "attack defense" 4-3, or the uncanny similarity between the "Joe Brady offense" and the Scott Linehan stall or the Jake Peetz / DJ Mangas prevent offense.

Certainly, everyone can appreciate Orgeron's laser like focus after 2019, his concern for his girlfriends and their children at LSU practices, and his sense of failure/shame when he was fired from his head coaching position at LSU. Surely, LSU fans don't think for one second that Saban acted differently from Orgeron when Saban was fired from his job with Ohio State?



Negligent homicide? Vehicular homicide?

I would like to hear the facts of the case.
I'm sorry for your loss but happy for LSU's gain.


P.S. I think he's smaller than you, so his clothes wouldn't fit. He's a little fella.
Schools tend to have a recruiting dip when they transition to a new head coach.
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I’d just like to point out that any grown man who types this out is a douche

Carry on
Sigh.



Your post implies that you'd think a grown man actually cares what you think?



Why do people do this?
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You gotta think they judt said F- it, go get the highest rated Louisiana kid we can afford...
Wasn't he a Mississippi kid committed to Auburn?
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Hanagriff reporting that Elijah Robinson is at LSU today

Seems an announcement is imminent
But if they hire Elijah Robinson to coach the defensive line, they can't hire Orgeron to be the d-line coach.

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I said in some way. That doesn't mean he is actively telling kids to not sign with LSU unless they give him what he wants like some have mentioned.

There is a difference, but that is a bit hard for you to understand.
That's some fancy crawfishing. So, let me see if I understand your new position: he's not using the recruits as leverage to do the Specific Rumor Bad Thing A, he's using the recruits as leverage "in some way" to do some other Unspecified Bad Thing B. But of course, you won't tell us what the other Unspecified Bad Thing B is.

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In the end, you are one his staunch defenders of Wilson as if he is some unicorn
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In the previous post you act like this is still LSU from the 1990s and unless we have Wilson, we will get no NOLA talent.
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You don't need a guy like Wilson anymore because of two things: 1) The program is a top-tier program now and not a struggling mess with no winning seasons, and 2) you can pay the players now.
So what you're trying to say is that LSU won't be competing for recruits with schools that are "top-tier programs." Instead, LSU will compete only with schools that are struggling messes with no winning seasons. And of course, LSU will not compete for recruits with schools that have money.

I don't think your statement is correct. But hey, why should you change now.

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It's not just that he is useless, but players actively regress under him consistently.
You keep saying this, but you've never actually offered any evidence to support it.
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he very next line in his post clearly indicates that he does, in fact, BELIEVE the rumors.
You have reading comprehension issues. In the very next line you quoted to try and prove this point, I said I believed he would use leverage to get what he wants. That doesn't mean he is steering kids away, but I have little doubt he would use and is using his leverage in some form.
Sigh.

You're full of shite. Let's look at what YOU actually posted.

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Do I believe the specific rumors that he is using the kids as leverage? I don't know.

Do I believe he would use it as leverage in some way? You bet your arse, he would and probably is.
You didn't just say that you believed he would use leverage to get what he wants. You said that you believe that he probably is using leverage to get what he wants.

Don't sugarcoat it. Don't spin it. Don't lie to us. Don't lie to yourself.

Accept it. Admit it. Embrace your beliefs.

You BELIEVE the rumors that Frank Wilson is using his position to stop recruits from signing with LSU.


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Then he has little worth if he is a massive negative as an actual coach and can't guarantee anything. Plain and simple.

You gave him an excuse for not getting all of the players nor even the ones that should have gone to LSU from all their comments.

Then, you will likely turn around and say he can't control what 18 year olds and their families do? While true, unless he is guaranteeing players to LSU without having to overpay anyhow, then he is utterly useless and will just hurt this team. He should be let go.
Do you deal with sales at all in the real world?

It is undeniably true that no salesman can guarantee a sale.

It's also undeniably true that there are some salesmen who are much better than others.

Richard Anderson is from New Orleans. He signed with LSU.

Aidan Hall is from New Orleans. He signed with LSU.

Jabari Mack is from Destrehan. He signed with LSU.

That's pretty good. I'm with happy with those results.
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Nobody can "lock down" any geographic area. Some kids just want to get out of state.
So they he serves no purpose since he cant' coach worth a shite and we can pay the players to come now.
Oh, you're the type of poster who misquotes others to make your point.

Next time, just wave a flag that announces that you are full of shite.

What I posted was:
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Nobody can "lock down" any geographic area. Some kids just want to get out of state. What good recruiters do is build relationships that increase the chance of getting a player and reduce the price of the player. Obviously, that has value.
Everyone with a functioning brain knows that a salesman with a relationship has a huge advantage over a salesman with no relationship. It's not all about price.
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Do I believe the specific rumors that he is using the kids as leverage? I don't know.

Do I believe he would use it as leverage in some way? You bet your arse, he would and probably is.
You want us to believe you are unbiased. But you clearly WANT to believe the rumors, and, it's time to admit it at least to yourself, you DO believe the rumors.
Is that any different than you WANTING to believe they’re not true?
Yes. There is a huge difference.

I'm not offering some bullshite attempt to show that I'm not biased about Frank Wilson. He says he doesn't know if he believes the rumors. The very next line in his post clearly indicates that he does, in fact, BELIEVE the rumors. So, he is coming from a place with an agenda but wants us to believe that he has no bias. He's lying to himself, and he's lying to us. I tend not to place much credence in a person who lies. Particularly, when the rest of what they're saying is laced with emotion.

re: Get To Know Scottie Hazleton

Posted by Salviati on 12/5/25 at 8:50 am to
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Rumors that he will be the next DC.
Based on what exactly?
Nothing except I like the idea of it. That’s why I put the “?”.
Come on, man.

That's NOT rumors.

That's just YOU wishing.
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The E-knights for Frank on here have become absurd. The guy has and will always be about himself.
You seem upset. Do you want me to help you set up some time with a therapist?

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Do I believe the specific rumors that he is using the kids as leverage? I don't know.

Do I believe he would use it as leverage in some way? You bet your arse, he would and probably is.
You want us to believe you are unbiased. But you clearly WANT to believe the rumors, and, it's time to admit it at least to yourself, you DO believe the rumors.

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In the end, Frank may be one of the worst actual coaches in college football
Really?!?! Really?!?! One of the WORST coaches in college football. Maybe that's a little strong? He sures seems to have had a pretty long career as a college coach to be one of the WORST coaches in college football.

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but you people want to cow down to him because of a bunch of NOLA coaches.
I don't think anyone wants to cow down to Frank Wilson.

I don't think anyone knows how to cow down, but we are willing to learn. Would they send us someplace special?

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He can't even lock down NOLA players as many players have left with him here.

Money is what gets these players, not some politicking former high school coach that only got his positions in college because of recruits and not actual coaching ability.
Oh, you are angry. Seriously, I can hook you up with a therapist this weekend. Just say when, and it's a go.

Nobody can "lock down" any geographic area. Some kids just want to get out of state. What good recruiters do is build relationships that increase the chance of getting a player and reduce the price of the player. Obviously, that has value.
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Anyone have an idea what year this photo was taken? Not a car expert, so I have no clue what car that is or what year it might be.
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I can tell you the exact date. January 1, 1959. Sugar Bowl, New Orleans. LSU 7 - Clemson 0.

I think Missouri Waltz is wrong.

The high temperature in New Orleans on January 1, 1959, was 49 degrees. That crowd is clearly not dressed for sub-50 degree temperatures.
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I can tell you the exact date. January 1, 1959. Sugar Bowl, New Orleans. LSU 7 - Clemson 0.
I think you're wrong.

The high temperature in New Orleans on January 1, 1959, was 49 degrees. That crowd is clearly not dressed for sub-50 degree temperatures.

Home field usually translates to an additional 3-points to the home team in the spread, which yields about an additional 7% chance of winning.

Of course, the greater factor for computing percentage chance of winning is the opponent.

Accordingly, one half of the SEC having one additional away game should not have a particularly large impact on determining which two teams go the SECCG.