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re: What were the 80s like in regards to the HIV/AIDS epidemic?
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:41 am to Tree_Fall
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:41 am to Tree_Fall
The health craze of the 80’s partly has a link back to the AIDS epidemic.
People, especially in the gay community, wanted to portray an image of being healthy to counter concerns of whether they had it. Running, weight lifting, aerobics all took off in that era as a response.
People, especially in the gay community, wanted to portray an image of being healthy to counter concerns of whether they had it. Running, weight lifting, aerobics all took off in that era as a response.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 12:51 am to Fletch1985
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Just adding that it basically eliminated the hemophiliac population because the blood supply was contaminated. There was a time people refused transfusions because couldn’t guarantee the safety of the supply
I was injured in an accident as a toddler during the mid 80's and my parents refused letting me get blood transfusions, told me stories when I was a kid about having to feed me liquid iron to help replenish my blood supply.
Now having young kids its hard to imagine being in the position having to make that decision.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 1:04 am to braves21
All I remember was magic Johnson and we watched a documentary about Ryan White in school. Seemed like it was taking over the world at that age.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 2:09 am to RolltidePA
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The health craze of the 80’s partly has a link back to the AIDS epidemic.
People, especially in the gay community, wanted to portray an image of being healthy to counter concerns of whether they had it. Running, weight lifting, aerobics all took off in that era as a response.
I would push back a little bit on that.. I was only a small child in the 1980s, but my understanding, from things ive learned as an adult- is that the running craze specifically took off in the 1970s.. prior to AIDS being identified.. and it was every bit as popular amongst heteros as it was amongst the gays.. also, weightlifting's popularity origin can (mostly) be traced back to the mid 70s Schwarzenegger flick Pumping Iron. and while of course the gays love themselves a gym, again id say that weightlifting was just as popular amongst straights .. and I think aerobics owes more Jane 'Aint got a motor in the back of her Honda' Fonda than Richard Simmons or any of the gays .. if memory serves, Fonda's workout tapes predate Simmons tv show and national popularity by a year or two .
Posted on 10/8/26 at 3:07 am to braves21
I remember in elementary school a kid a year older than me had HIV from a blood transfusion when he was a baby. I felt bad for him because he was just a normal kid but because of what he had you could tell no one ever really wanted to get close to him or make contact with him. He ended up passing away in his teens.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 4:10 am to braves21
I agree that there wasn't the internet along with Tik Tok to scare the beejeezus out of everybody. Which looking back, did make a big difference.
I remember a lot of talk about where it came from.
A lot of talk about using condoms. Don't use dirty needles. Medical staff precautions with needles.
Hazardous biological waste handling, how to properly sanitize.
I remember it being a really big scare amongst cops.
I remember a lot of talk about where it came from.
A lot of talk about using condoms. Don't use dirty needles. Medical staff precautions with needles.
Hazardous biological waste handling, how to properly sanitize.
I remember it being a really big scare amongst cops.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 4:18 am to braves21
It was known even back then that as long as you were not having homosexual sex or sharing needles during drug use your chances of getting HIV were minuscule. A lot of scare tactics were used against the heterosexual community to try and normalize HIV infection to avoid persecution of homosexuals.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 4:51 am to Lonnie Utah
The one they are covering up? That Aids? Stay safe 
Posted on 10/8/26 at 5:21 am to braves21
Even kids understood that it was a gay thing. "Haha, you got AIDS"! That was the new *tag* you're *it.*
The panic probably stopped a few swinger parties, but overall the man on the street wasn't that concerned by it.
The panic probably stopped a few swinger parties, but overall the man on the street wasn't that concerned by it.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 5:35 am to braves21
One of my oldest sister’s friends was gay. About 1982. I was 17 and naive. He wrote his phone number on a card and told me call him sometime to “have a drink.”. When I told my sister she said “Oh, honey, no. He wants to frick you.” He later died from AIDS.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 5:42 am to braves21
Was never as big as covid. Nothing was ever as big as covid except maybe the black plague in the middle ages.
However it hit home one evening at an airport bar. Long delay and was having a drink with a stranger and this hot looking blonde a table away get's up and sits down between us. Real hot did I say. She began with you guys need to be safe I've got aids and I could of had both of you... you can't see it. She pulled out a pic and she's like 250, same woman, she said I'm in the wasting phase. One night she said, wrong guy, you got to be safe. Hit home that day and no longer theoretical.
But nope you didn't lock yourself away, or start working from home, or get forced to a dystopian science project. You more likely started wearing a rain coat instead of free range riding with women on the pill.
However it hit home one evening at an airport bar. Long delay and was having a drink with a stranger and this hot looking blonde a table away get's up and sits down between us. Real hot did I say. She began with you guys need to be safe I've got aids and I could of had both of you... you can't see it. She pulled out a pic and she's like 250, same woman, she said I'm in the wasting phase. One night she said, wrong guy, you got to be safe. Hit home that day and no longer theoretical.
But nope you didn't lock yourself away, or start working from home, or get forced to a dystopian science project. You more likely started wearing a rain coat instead of free range riding with women on the pill.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 5:50 am to baybeefeetz
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Good qeustion. it was strictly a gay plague at first, but then everybody thought everybody could get it easily. Now we know a little different.
You cannot appreciate the magnitude of Magic announcing he had HIV.
Excellent summary!
Without the internet, it was a slow roll as news media continued to increasingly focus on it. But at that time they weren't afraid of "stigmatization" by reporting that it was primarily in the gay community (so much so that at first people believed only gays could get it).
As an example of how much the perception changed, I remember a conversation I had with a gal at a bar in the late 80s/early 90s and she was adamant it could be spread through touching someone else's tears (so, from "only gays can get it" to "passes through contact with tears" in just a few years).
Posted on 10/8/26 at 5:54 am to braves21
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The way these people died
a difficult disease to catch
unless you enjoyed a male organ in your kiester…
Posted on 10/8/26 at 6:29 am to Bard
Growing up to find out that AIDS wasn't a hetero thing and the Satanic Panic was all bullshite was a foundational experience of my adolescence (born in 1983)
Posted on 10/8/26 at 6:34 am to braves21
Eddie Murphy had a great set on it. Yes, Eddie Murphy was a stand up comedian.
What I remember was we saw it primarily as a gay disease (which it was and still is) and as long as you didn’t run in the gay or IV druggie crowd you were probably good.
What I remember was we saw it primarily as a gay disease (which it was and still is) and as long as you didn’t run in the gay or IV druggie crowd you were probably good.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 6:34 am to braves21
With Covid, everything was dialed up to ten. AIDS in the 80s was nothing like that. It was more of a slow-burn news story, lasting longer, but nowhere near the bonkers-level craziness of Covid.
Mainly because AIDS was a more compartmentalized situation. The population full of husbands-and-wives, grandparents, and younger folks who stayed with a single steady, really didn't have much to fear, and it stayed at arm's length. The bigger paranoia was accidentally pricking oneself with a discarded syringe. But whatever the case, for the big majority of the population, it wasn't a big fear. For the bar scene and promiscuous bed-hopper crowd, yes, it was a very big factor, and for the homos it was the overriding issue of their entire existence.
The bigger shock to mid-america was when Rock Hudson made an appearance on Doris Day's CBN show, and looked all thin and emaciated, which revealed his AIDS status as well as being a homo. I think it was maybe in 1984. The topic of AIDS in the news jumped a lot right around that time. It had been a more minor but always-bubbling story before that. Something the news broadcasts had been mentioning for a few years, but never the 'top' news story. In fact, it was rarely ever the 'top' news story back then, throughout the 1980s (another example of how it differed big time from Covid.
Johnny Carson started making jokes about the new terminology of 'safe sex' around that time in the mid-1980s. You'd just constantly hear more and more about the homo culture and the victims and all that. Before that time, in the pre-1980s, you'd could go for months without hearing a single reference to homosexuals or their sub-culture. AIDS came along, and it just pushed all that into the daily national discussion. To a wearisome degree, and continued to grow worse with every passing year. That was a big change that happened at that time.
Mainly because AIDS was a more compartmentalized situation. The population full of husbands-and-wives, grandparents, and younger folks who stayed with a single steady, really didn't have much to fear, and it stayed at arm's length. The bigger paranoia was accidentally pricking oneself with a discarded syringe. But whatever the case, for the big majority of the population, it wasn't a big fear. For the bar scene and promiscuous bed-hopper crowd, yes, it was a very big factor, and for the homos it was the overriding issue of their entire existence.
The bigger shock to mid-america was when Rock Hudson made an appearance on Doris Day's CBN show, and looked all thin and emaciated, which revealed his AIDS status as well as being a homo. I think it was maybe in 1984. The topic of AIDS in the news jumped a lot right around that time. It had been a more minor but always-bubbling story before that. Something the news broadcasts had been mentioning for a few years, but never the 'top' news story. In fact, it was rarely ever the 'top' news story back then, throughout the 1980s (another example of how it differed big time from Covid.
Johnny Carson started making jokes about the new terminology of 'safe sex' around that time in the mid-1980s. You'd just constantly hear more and more about the homo culture and the victims and all that. Before that time, in the pre-1980s, you'd could go for months without hearing a single reference to homosexuals or their sub-culture. AIDS came along, and it just pushed all that into the daily national discussion. To a wearisome degree, and continued to grow worse with every passing year. That was a big change that happened at that time.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 7:12 am to Tree_Fall
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The Philadelphia Story
The K. Hepburn IV drug use subplot was shocking for its time.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 7:17 am to braves21
It kind of put a damper on the whole "free love" movement of the late 1960s. It was always there as a teen or a young adult. Most pop culture aimed at that demographic had some element of AIDs testing etc. in it. I can remember having condoms break or in the moment simply not using one at all and having some momentary concern about pregnancy but also AIDs. I am pretty certain the data indicates that people who would have been sexually active based on age in the early to even the mid and late 70s were not as active at that age in the late 70s through fairly recently.....it was concerning. For people around my age, 61, who are not in a committed relationship and sexually active studies show it is still a fear - we were pretty scared when we came of age about AIDs....it was concerning.
It was allowed to become more of a problem because everyone thought it was something that was confined to gay men and as long as you weren't gay you were safe and since it was only gay men who cared? That was an issue that absolutely existed. Many televangelists and preachers went on record saying AIDs was a message from god that homosexuality was a cardinal sin. That ignorance and lack of empathy caused a lot of deaths around the world and that is a well documented fact despite the revisionist historians who still deny the science.
I knew 2 people who died of AIDs, one around 1983 and a cousin I was very close to in the mid 90s. Both were gay. The one who died in the early 80s was my best friend's older brother. His family was not allowed to bury him in Georgia. He could not be embalmed and it cost a fortune for them to have his body cremated. There were no official prohibitions but almost no funeral home or cematary would allow it and crematoriums charged a fortune due to a lack of competition. I did not know he had died of complications associated with AIDS....his family never admitted it. Those of us who knew him suspected it and my friend told me years later that he had died of AIDs. I knew their mother was always very upset that he had "chosen" to be cremated and their father kind of acted like the man (he was about 19 when he died) had never existed. It was pretty damned tragic.
We were pretty ignorant. Most of us initially thought it could only happen to gay men and while they were certainly impacted more initially it did not take long for an awful lot of heterosexuals to be infected. Most of us were convinced it was solely related to anal sex and only men. Again, certainly was more likely to happen but it wasn't required. When the data started suggesting it was not limited to gay men we were equally ignorant in thinking vaginal sex was as risky and even receiving oral sex. We did not know and it has taken many years for the data to be more widely accepted. It was kind of always there for people around my age....not that it kept us from taking risks, as we understood them at the time, but we were more cautious than those who came of age in the late 60s and most of the 70s...and the pop culture that was directed at us almost always had some sort of AIDs issue.
It was allowed to become more of a problem because everyone thought it was something that was confined to gay men and as long as you weren't gay you were safe and since it was only gay men who cared? That was an issue that absolutely existed. Many televangelists and preachers went on record saying AIDs was a message from god that homosexuality was a cardinal sin. That ignorance and lack of empathy caused a lot of deaths around the world and that is a well documented fact despite the revisionist historians who still deny the science.
I knew 2 people who died of AIDs, one around 1983 and a cousin I was very close to in the mid 90s. Both were gay. The one who died in the early 80s was my best friend's older brother. His family was not allowed to bury him in Georgia. He could not be embalmed and it cost a fortune for them to have his body cremated. There were no official prohibitions but almost no funeral home or cematary would allow it and crematoriums charged a fortune due to a lack of competition. I did not know he had died of complications associated with AIDS....his family never admitted it. Those of us who knew him suspected it and my friend told me years later that he had died of AIDs. I knew their mother was always very upset that he had "chosen" to be cremated and their father kind of acted like the man (he was about 19 when he died) had never existed. It was pretty damned tragic.
We were pretty ignorant. Most of us initially thought it could only happen to gay men and while they were certainly impacted more initially it did not take long for an awful lot of heterosexuals to be infected. Most of us were convinced it was solely related to anal sex and only men. Again, certainly was more likely to happen but it wasn't required. When the data started suggesting it was not limited to gay men we were equally ignorant in thinking vaginal sex was as risky and even receiving oral sex. We did not know and it has taken many years for the data to be more widely accepted. It was kind of always there for people around my age....not that it kept us from taking risks, as we understood them at the time, but we were more cautious than those who came of age in the late 60s and most of the 70s...and the pop culture that was directed at us almost always had some sort of AIDs issue.
Posted on 10/8/26 at 7:24 am to jbgleason
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Bull fricking shite. We were constantly being told we could get it from straight sex and even from touching / ingesting some blood, spit or other bodily fluids. I was always worried about it in college right up until the girl I brought home from Murphys that night got her pants off. Then I somehow always managed to not worry about it until the next day.
This was how I remember it....although for the most part at least some us tried to mitigate the risk by using condoms MOST of the time. I think most people who were of the age that would be normal for them to be become sexually active were in the same boat. We were ignorant and it was always kind of there....and the fear AFTER the fact was very real for most of us...either not using a condom or having one break or slip off....again, many of us took the risk in the moment but the concern was real with post nut clarity,,,,,and we were kind of lucky - the risk was small but it was real, many people did indeed get AIDs through heterosexual sex.....
Posted on 10/8/26 at 8:19 am to Bard
And I think that was due to an intentional publicity campaign by advocates to garner support for research and such, primarily to benefit the many gays who died from it.

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