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the children were all found in the boat, obviously they were tethered to It somehow


There is video of the boat being lifted by a crane, the tower is in the down position with the Bimini open. This puts the Bimini top down just above the windshield of the boat, fill it with water and flip or over while everything on board the boat is ejected into the water and it’s very easy to see how these younger kids get trapped.

Also you’re going to consider the observer seat directly across from the helm on the port side to the be the most protected place from the weather and put the kids there. When the boat rolls and they don’t go overboard immediately now they’re trapped with the boat on top of them wearing floatation kids that are aren’t going to be physically capable of escaping.

Wake boats are like submarines in rough water. Low bow, heavy, no flare to push water outward away from entering the cockpit. They’re not self bailing, In general though this is just not a boat you want to be in when it’s rough.

I think the most likely scenario that resulted in the kids being trapped is this: downdraft hits and it gets rough fast. Temp drops 30 degrees and heavy rain starts falling. Operator is just making way, everyone is miserable, and pointing the low bow of this boat into the sea and taking it head on only works if he speeds up and gets the bow up. Problem is he also can’t see shite in the conditions and this will only make that worse. Now he’s setup perfectly to stuff the bow on a non self-bailing boat that will have serious stability issues with a cockpit full of water and 10 occupants.

Second issue: This boat has a tower that telescopes up and down, that wind driven rain hurts in a boat and you’re getting soaked and cold, they likely had the tower lowered with the Bimini open which would be just a little higher than the windshield. The salesman probably told them how awesome this feature is and can shelter you in bad weather. The Bimini/tower/speakers board racks and crap created a confined space that trapped the younger occupants as the boat rolled over.

Back in my younger years running boats offshore We used to put all of our foul weather gear on and then hold lifejackets in front of our face when running in storms because the rain hurts so bad when it hits your face at 30mph boat speed and wind speeds anywhere from 10-50+, we didn’t have a windshield that you could get behind and see where you were going. So we improvised, It was painful and also difficult to see, we didn’t want to slow down because we were miserable and getting our asses kicked and going slow wasn’t safer. Typically took an hour run to get back to the dock.

There are Lots of idiots out in the gulf/oceans too but most ocean boaters at least try to get some level of weather/seamanship knowledge. I find that most lake boaters are completely clueless. Articles claiming the driver was experienced don’t mean much, this is as 100% operator error.

For the record I got my master ticket at 21 and was racking up thousands of hours of wheel time yearly running boats plus we did most of our maintenance in house. I knew the boats I ran inside and out. I have driven through dozens of storms like the one described in this event, waterspouts, microbursts, feeling the nearby lightning through the steering wheel, all in the ocean in an open boat. By the time I got my ticket I had 6 years as a mate, operating in these conditions.

I routinely meet guys who operate a boat a dozen weekends per year and rate themselves as expert boat operators. Many are bass boat guys who drive their boat with a trolling motor 90% of the time. Putting 40 hours on a bass/wake/jon boat each year doesn’t mean you know anything about operating a boat. I saw another Nautique owner posting on FB saying “I thought the foam in these boats would keep them from sinking”. Had a Mastercraft owner whose boat was overheating last week answer a question about the sea cock and strainer with “what are those?” Dude is putting his kids in a boat and doesn’t know it has valves you can shut if the cooling or ballast systems start leaking and the boat is sinking.
Home of the drive thru window. It’s a great little town, not much in the way of good food.
I live in a suburb in TN in our town there is a chick-fil-a, Popeyes, 2 Zaxbys, guthries and a slim chickens. They just opened a canes about 10 mins away closer to the city.

They employees are severely lacking at all but chick fil a and slims. Guthries guy is putting up signs for aggressive promos, their food is on the better end of the spectrum but they’re slow as Popeyes and never seem to have any crowd.

Can’t imagine a scenario where all of them survive.

re: Old boat - when to punt

Posted by tes fou on 6/25/26 at 11:23 pm to
Those are some of the best 2-stokes you can own, they are also a complete pain in the arse compared to a brand new 4-stroke. Yamaha 40 should run around $7500.

You can get a couple grand for your 2-stoke if it’s in solid shape.

re: Boat trailer question

Posted by tes fou on 6/22/26 at 10:06 pm to
Google tire date code and find them. If they’re original they’re 50% chance of making the trip.
Had some in a soft yeti for medical purpose came back to hotel room found it blown up like a balloon. Didn’t consider the zipper being airtight on a soft cooler. Was a good thing I found it before it blew up a very nice hotel room.
My kid is 6. He has Apple Watch. He can tell Siri to call us. We can call and track him. No ability to watch video or other apps to get addicted to. So far so good.

re: In ceiling speaker questions

Posted by tes fou on 6/15/26 at 1:51 pm to
I have both 6 and 8" Klipsch speakers in my house installed in ceiling in my living room, master, and back patio. I installed them all myself using wiring I had prerun by my GC when the house was built. Pricing on amazon was pretty good discount off retail, and I didn't find anything that would make me believe they were counterfeit which always concerns me with amazon.

Do they sound as good as towers? no
Do they sound way better than a soundbar and more wife friendly? yes

The ones I bought simply use a Phillips head screw to retract/deploy/tighten the brackets that hold them to the drywall. Super easy to do.
12mg holy shite. Maybe not as potent or they’ve figured out the side effects but I’m diabetic, if I don’t take meds I’ll wake up with blood sugar at 400 without eating or drinking a thing.

I went from .75 to 1.5mg of a GLP1 and I can hardly stand the combo of reflux and feeling like general dog shite.

These massive doses people take to lose weight have got to be brutal.
Talent at the one in Houma was mediocre last time I was in town, but the beer was ice fricking cold. Astonishing how many places can’t even get that right. Still sad when you remember 20 years ago when hooters was absolutely stacked with OT 8’s and up.

re: Golden Doodle Pups

Posted by tes fou on 5/15/26 at 10:03 pm to
Mixing poodle and other dogs can be a bit of a crap shoot. The good ones are great the bad ones are a huge pain in the arse. My parents have had standard poodles my entire life, great dogs, smart but a lot of Energy and smart enough to cause trouble, we’ve had ones that can open doors, turn faucets on to drink etc.

I had one I got from what I’d assume was a trailer park breeder in MS met them
At a gas station in kentwood and gave them a couple hundred bucks. she lived 17 years, healthy as an ox, was brilliant, sweetest dog you’d ever meet, i could let out of my place uptown on Magazine just open the door she would run out and do her thing and come right back wouldn’t leave our yard. I have another family Member who spent thousands getting a standard poodle from a super well known champion show dog breeder, he’s a basket case, health probs, behavior problems, aggressive toward kids and other dogs all kinds of issues.

I’ve got a half newfy half poodle that’s an incredible dog, his older brother was even better but died from cancer at 5. I fostered a half sheepdog half poodle, he was the worst of both breeds, high strung, tried to herd everyone, tried to kill my kids pet rabbit, ate his own shite, he was a mess. Sweet as can be, but a total pain in the arse.

I’ve always wanted a purebred golden, love them, always said I wouldn’t because of the hair, now I have a purebred newfy in my house. Amazing dog, messy as shite. Hair and slobber everywhere. Burns up at least one Dyson a year.
Tennessee has a lot of great attributes, the lack of an ocean means it will never be my #1.
I had State Farm until around 10 years ago I switched to USAA. Had home and autos with their insurance for years, then they suddenly decided to double my auto rates so I switched, kept homeowners for a year or two and they hit me with 50% jump. Ended up at State Farm saving a couple grand per year. Shop them every time but not competitive anymore.

State Farm just hiked my rate 10% on home two years in a row, Allstate is quoting $2k less on home, similar on autos, everyone else is pretty comparable to State Farm with a few outliers on the high side.

Never dealt with Allstate and have heard some negative stories but it’s almost $2200/yr total savings going to feed all the quotes into AI and have it break down the coverages etc for me. Also State Farm has been pushing for 1% wind and hail deductible which in TN is my primary risk, others are offering $1k-5k deductibles with similar premiums which are much more palatable.
25 years ago we would cruise up and down the blvd, go to broadway, hell I didn’t carry a key to our house in surfside because the door was never locked. We didn’t know how good we had it, we just stayed out of MB proper for Memorial Day weekend and the rest of the year no problems at all.
Whoever did their fire suppression system may be the bigger criminal. Dude has multiple small fires filling the place with smoke, should have looked like a South Louisiana early summer downpour in that place.
Give us some context is this gemstone rockband church, snakes and sparklers, Jesus needs a jet or more traditional?
Says they had 130+ stores, $1mil per store isn’t a bad debt load if they own a substantial amount of the property, I’m going to assume based on the filings saying they’re trying to get out of their leases they don’t.
The ones up here in Tennessee suck arse in general, but sometimes I still suffer through the experience for the flavor.

The last time I went to the one in Houma they were ballin out, food was fire hot, they were filling drive thru orders lightning fast, didn’t make a single person pull up. It was shocking to see.

Just makes you think, If you had Popeyes food and chick fil an employees, holy shite you’d be rich.
Went to basketball camp there in 6th grade. Coulda been me…

Also, just looked it’s 70k per year to go there I guess that’s a bargain compared to 90k at wake or duke but Christ, when I was growing up there, high point was about as prestigious as the university of phoenix online.