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Aeolian Vocalion
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re: Ted Turner's Film and Television Legacy
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 5/10/26 at 9:48 pm to Kafka
The WB studio's propensity for zip and speed is why I love a lot of their programmers. Their delvings into hotsy-totsy pre-cord fare have a kind of potboiler tint, which can make them a mixed bag for me.
Paramount tended to push the envelope the furthest back then, but I think the studio's visual house-style, courtesy cinematographers like Karl Struss and Charles Lang, lent such an elegance that it couched some the more shocking and seedy outbursts. At least until they went entirely into the gutter with "The Search for Beauty" (1934).
I think the most interesting studio in that pre-code period is actually Fox studios. Lots of really, really weird stuff, like "The Warrior's Husband" (1933), "I Am Suzanne" (1934), "Face in the Sky" (1933), along with typical pre-code artifacts like the loopy "Sailor's Luck" (1933), along with "Call Her Savage" (1932), "Pleasure Cruise" (1933), "A Passport to Hell" (1932), and whatnot. And speaking of zippy, Fox one-ups WB with "The Trial of Vivienne Ware" (1932), which is done at such a breakneck speed it's almost disorienting. Cinematically, I'm often being convinced that Fox was a couple of years ahead of other studios, showing off more camera-angles, location work, and overall atmosphere. 1931 had several knockouts, like director William K. Howard's "Transatlantic" (1931), Henry King's "Over the Hill" (1931), and Raoul Walsh's "The Yellow Ticket" (1931). Eh, I'm rambling.
Paramount tended to push the envelope the furthest back then, but I think the studio's visual house-style, courtesy cinematographers like Karl Struss and Charles Lang, lent such an elegance that it couched some the more shocking and seedy outbursts. At least until they went entirely into the gutter with "The Search for Beauty" (1934).
I think the most interesting studio in that pre-code period is actually Fox studios. Lots of really, really weird stuff, like "The Warrior's Husband" (1933), "I Am Suzanne" (1934), "Face in the Sky" (1933), along with typical pre-code artifacts like the loopy "Sailor's Luck" (1933), along with "Call Her Savage" (1932), "Pleasure Cruise" (1933), "A Passport to Hell" (1932), and whatnot. And speaking of zippy, Fox one-ups WB with "The Trial of Vivienne Ware" (1932), which is done at such a breakneck speed it's almost disorienting. Cinematically, I'm often being convinced that Fox was a couple of years ahead of other studios, showing off more camera-angles, location work, and overall atmosphere. 1931 had several knockouts, like director William K. Howard's "Transatlantic" (1931), Henry King's "Over the Hill" (1931), and Raoul Walsh's "The Yellow Ticket" (1931). Eh, I'm rambling.
re: Favorite Western Swing song?
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 5/10/26 at 12:09 pm to TejasHorn
There are some precursors to the Milton Brown era (my first thought when it comes to western swing) where a few regional hotel bands have a hint of western swing in them, if one listens very closely, like Phil Baxter's "Down Where the Blue Bonnets Grow" and "I Ain't Got No Gal Now," both recorded for Victor in Dallas in 1929. Maybe even with Lloyd Finley and his Orch, who recorded "Fiddlin' Blues" in Houston in 1925 from another Victor field recording. I have an original copy of both records, and give them a spin every now and then.
re: Ted Turner's Film and Television Legacy
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 5/10/26 at 11:47 am to Kafka
Nope, don't care for "Heroes for Sale" (1933). I never cared for WB's social-drama trend. It's pretty much the only little sub-genre of film that I done care for, the social-drama or 'message' movie. Give me crime dramas, westerns, comedies, costume adventures, musicals, romance films, jungle hokum, circus pictures, anything else. I'll even watch those creaky early-talkie operetta films, like WB's "Sweet Kitty Bellairs" (1930). But, I just don't like films where I get the feeling I'm listening to some screenwriter with an agenda standing on a soapbox and ranting at me. Not nearly as common in pre-war films as post, but 1930s WB sometimes waded in those waters.
According to my book, Warner Bros. made 52 movies in 1933. I've seen about 45 of them. I like most of them. Shame we'll never get to see the 'lost' "Convention City" (1933), though. Whatever the case, being able to see all those films so easily was thanks to Ted Turner's opening all those vaults, roughly forty years ago.
According to my book, Warner Bros. made 52 movies in 1933. I've seen about 45 of them. I like most of them. Shame we'll never get to see the 'lost' "Convention City" (1933), though. Whatever the case, being able to see all those films so easily was thanks to Ted Turner's opening all those vaults, roughly forty years ago.
re: Ted Turner's Film and Television Legacy
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 5/9/26 at 7:57 am to Kafka
TNT's first airing of "The Lost Flight" (1931) was in September 1989. I watched it and taped it then. The network showed all those WB Richard Barthelmess films, most of which I liked, except for the dreary, commie "Heroes for Sale" (1933).
The TNT network started the 1st week of October 1988, and my vcr went into overdrive. I watched/taped at least 50 movies that first month. It was an avalanche of old films (early RKO, WB, MGM) that I'd never encountered before. Films that had indeed been in tv-syndication fairly widely in the mid-1950s to early-1960s, but had greatly disappeared after that. Until TNT and then TCM brought them back.
The TNT network started the 1st week of October 1988, and my vcr went into overdrive. I watched/taped at least 50 movies that first month. It was an avalanche of old films (early RKO, WB, MGM) that I'd never encountered before. Films that had indeed been in tv-syndication fairly widely in the mid-1950s to early-1960s, but had greatly disappeared after that. Until TNT and then TCM brought them back.
re: Something from youth now missing?
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 5/7/26 at 7:50 am to Bayou
The sight of the milkman going through the neighborhood, going door-to-door, carrying a cart of milk, orange juice and cottage cheese
The sight of a spinner rack of comic-books at virtually every pharmacy, grocery store, and convenience store you'd enter.
The sight of a spinner rack of comic-books at virtually every pharmacy, grocery store, and convenience store you'd enter.
re: To Kill a Mockingbird TCM
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 5/2/26 at 7:12 pm to meansonny
No, I don't really mind the narrative from a child's perspective, nor the somewhat stylized approach to reality. Those can and often do resonate with me. Maybe it's partially because of the meshing of these elements with the heavy subject-matter that I found the results a little unappetizing. I don't know. Usually I also expect a child's perspective to be a bit more expressive of joyful wonderment, but the film's approach was more dark and moody and typical of post-war psychology, despite its earlier-era setting. A certain brand of unctuous artificiality that was common the dramas of that period, which I've never really cottoned to.
Probably also didn't help that my first introduction to the film was divided into two parts over two days, when it was screened on 16mm for us school students, during a teacher-workday period. Not saying that I have an active, total dislike for the film. It's tolerable enough. But I wish I could warm up to it more, especially since I had a nice chat one time with Mary Badham, about thirty years ago, and found her most pleasant.
Probably also didn't help that my first introduction to the film was divided into two parts over two days, when it was screened on 16mm for us school students, during a teacher-workday period. Not saying that I have an active, total dislike for the film. It's tolerable enough. But I wish I could warm up to it more, especially since I had a nice chat one time with Mary Badham, about thirty years ago, and found her most pleasant.
re: To Kill a Mockingbird TCM
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 5/2/26 at 8:41 am to Kafka
I always vastly preferred "Intruder in the Dust" (1949). It seemed vibrant and realistic. It grabs you by the collar, and doesn't couch things. "Mockingbird" always struck me as a mopey, inward-looking tone-poem with self-conscious messaging, and shares a dreary-spooky aesthetic similar to "The Miracle Worker" (1961). Both those latter two are well-made and quite beloved, and I don't really knock them, but they just really aren't my cup of tea.
re: 34 Years ago today, 1992 Los Angeles Riots
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 4/30/26 at 7:40 am to Shexter
I was in Los Angeles that very morning. But I was just packed up and leaving, starting the long drive back to Texas. For two days I was on the road, and really had no idea what a big event that was turning into. Just heard a little bit about some rioting going on in Los Angeles on the radio as I was driving. Phoned some friends when I got back, and they sounded genuinely shocked and aghast at what happened all around them.
re: Remember when TV would go off the air?
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 4/26/26 at 10:32 pm to BabyTac
There was something so special about staying up late, watching a late-show, when all the other channels had signed off. The commercials were more low-key, and usually a mix of local car dealerships and sofa/furniture stores, along with ragged 16mm prints of PSA's.
You could just totally 'taste' the lateness of the hour down to your bones. It was so unique. But it all disappeared with 24-hour-a-day cable programming, and infomercials and such, making 1:00am and 2:00am seem just as loud as brassy as the middle of the day.
You could just totally 'taste' the lateness of the hour down to your bones. It was so unique. But it all disappeared with 24-hour-a-day cable programming, and infomercials and such, making 1:00am and 2:00am seem just as loud as brassy as the middle of the day.
re: Diversity has been a total failure for America
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 4/24/26 at 12:48 pm to texag7
Any tiny benefit has been massively overwhelmed by the descent it has brought, from transforming the nation into a low-trust society, and a trash-pit culture.
re: Favorite child actors in movies?
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 4/23/26 at 2:44 pm to Stamps74
I always rather liked Edith Fellows.
re: Best Movie Posters
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 4/16/26 at 8:25 am to Kafka
That "Dracula" piece looks like a herald (some folks want to refer to them as handbills), one of the more overlooked formats of movie memorabilia. They're always folded, but come in slightly different shapes and sizes. I bought a batch of about three-dozen of them in the late-1980s, all from films between about 1925 and 1934. Nothing probably all that collectible, the most prominent one being from the first version of "Show Boat" (1929). All came from a single movie-goer who kept them as mementos, with the theater's info usually stamped on back.
I think these colorful-type heralds gradually disappeared as the 1930s wore on, replaced by those duller, monotone handbills, which advertised not so much individual films but the local theater's weekly line-up. I do have one older example of a herald, which I found at a paper show many years back. It's for the 3rd episode of the "Perils of Pauline" (1914) serial. It's b&w, and shows several inset photos of the production. On the front, it touts "The Great $25,000 Eclectic Photoplay by Chas. Goddard" and "Played by the Great Pathe Players Under Special Lease." Might very likely be the oldest piece of movie memorabilia I own. Cost me all of two dollars.
I think these colorful-type heralds gradually disappeared as the 1930s wore on, replaced by those duller, monotone handbills, which advertised not so much individual films but the local theater's weekly line-up. I do have one older example of a herald, which I found at a paper show many years back. It's for the 3rd episode of the "Perils of Pauline" (1914) serial. It's b&w, and shows several inset photos of the production. On the front, it touts "The Great $25,000 Eclectic Photoplay by Chas. Goddard" and "Played by the Great Pathe Players Under Special Lease." Might very likely be the oldest piece of movie memorabilia I own. Cost me all of two dollars.
re: Favorite Game Shows, Game Show Hosts or Game Show Panelists
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 4/10/26 at 11:51 am to Mizz-SEC
Favorite game-show host? Easy. Bill Cullen.
re: So, who's the worst president ever?
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 4/10/26 at 10:26 am to Lutcher Lad
Several obvious contenders, and it's hard to argue against LBJ for one.
But damn. Biden facilitating a massive foreign invasion full of millions of third-world cretins, savages and illiterates onto our land is still about the most vile, traitorous thing any American leader has ever done to the country. He should never even have the honor of burial in American soil, his fetid remains more deservedly served up to scavenging rodents on some distant continent.
But damn. Biden facilitating a massive foreign invasion full of millions of third-world cretins, savages and illiterates onto our land is still about the most vile, traitorous thing any American leader has ever done to the country. He should never even have the honor of burial in American soil, his fetid remains more deservedly served up to scavenging rodents on some distant continent.
re: Your favorite Actor/Director Combos?
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 4/6/26 at 11:36 am to FAT SEXY
I dunno.
Hugo Haas / Cleo Moore ?
Hugo Haas / Cleo Moore ?
re: Gee Whizz, why do certain countries have a huge increase in rape cases? What could it be?
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 4/3/26 at 11:58 am to GatorOnAnIsland
It really is hard to have any respect for a country that can so willingly serve up their own female citizenry, their own wives and daughters, to foreign savages. But the globalist mindset is akin to the commie revolutionaries of yore, and anything and everything can be sacrificed for the 'cause.'
re: "Babes from days gone by (NSFW)" thread as per request by Kafka..
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 4/1/26 at 3:59 pm to BRich
'Bout time Dorothy Lamour showed up.
She's an absolute peach in "The Jungle Princess" (1936).
She's an absolute peach in "The Jungle Princess" (1936).
re: Just got back from Tokyo and didn’t see any bums…
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 3/31/26 at 7:33 am to Elihu
Never saw bums lying around parking lots, or freakazoids under underpasses when I was young, here in America, either. The vast majority of towns and cities just didn't put up with that kind of culturally decrepit activity.
re: Pictures from days gone by....
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 3/28/26 at 10:38 pm to Kafka
I love that popsicle advertisement. Never saw it before.
Hermes Press published reprints of the entire run of 1930s "Buck Rogers" comic-strips, beginning in 1929, and I read the whole run of dailies. The strip is sometimes knocked a bit for its weak art and weak writing, especially compared to "Flash Gordon," which arrived later, in 1934. However, I found myself enjoying "Buck Rogers" quite a bit. Despite its relative primitiveness, it conveyed a neat sense of early sci-fi wonderment.
Hermes Press published reprints of the entire run of 1930s "Buck Rogers" comic-strips, beginning in 1929, and I read the whole run of dailies. The strip is sometimes knocked a bit for its weak art and weak writing, especially compared to "Flash Gordon," which arrived later, in 1934. However, I found myself enjoying "Buck Rogers" quite a bit. Despite its relative primitiveness, it conveyed a neat sense of early sci-fi wonderment.
re: What is your favorite silent movie?
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 3/24/26 at 9:20 pm to Kafka
Oddly enough, I've run across a number of examples of sheet-music tied to silent films from the late-1910s into the 1920s, often sporting pictures of the various stars of the films.
I'd already listed some favorite silents, but I'll list a few more, starting with some fairly heralded 'classics' that I'm particularly fond of:
1. "Docks of New York" (1928) George Bancroft, Betty Compson
2. "Lucky Star" (1929) Janet Gaynor, Charles Farrell
3. "The Toll Gate" (1920) William S. Hart, Anna Q. Nilsson
4. "Wild Oranges" (1924) Frank Mayo, Virginia Valli
5. "Underground" (1928-British) Brian Aherne, Elissa Landi
6. "Stella Maris" (1918) Mary Pickford, Conway Tearle
7. "Redskin" (1929) Richard Dix, Gladys Belmont
8. "A Kiss for Cinderella" (1925) Betty Bronson, Tom Moore
9. "Asphalt" (1929-German) Betty Amann, Gustav Frolich
10. "Robin Hood" (1923) Douglas Fairbanks, Enid Bennett
But, there's a ton of 'little' films from the silent era that I often enjoy just as much, if not more, than a lot of the classics. Some that have clicked nicely with me, and had a good re-watchability factor include:
1. "The Matinee Idol" (1928) Bessie Love, Johnny Walker
2. "Lorraine of the Lions" (1925) Patsy Ruth Miller
3. "Padlocked" (1926) Lois Moran, Louise Dresser
4. "13 Washington Square" (1928) Jean Hersholt, Alice Joyce
5. "The False Road" (1920) Enid Bennett, Lloyd Hughes
6. "What Happened to Jones" (1926) Reginald Denny
7. "The Apple Tree Girl" (1917) Shirley Mason
8. "Wild Horse Mesa" (1925) Jack Holt, Billie Dove
9. "The Thirteenth Hour" (1927) Conrad Nagel, Leila Hyams
10. "Go and Get It" (1920) Pat O'Malley, Agnes Ayres
One thing I would like to see from some dvd company would be a really nice collection of all those Helen Holmes 'railroad' films, from the 1910s "Hazards of Helen" episodes to the 1920s features produced by her husband, J.P. McGowan, all looking nicely restored. Most of the public-domain prints circulating around are in such ratty shape. I love them, but they're all such eyesores.
I'd already listed some favorite silents, but I'll list a few more, starting with some fairly heralded 'classics' that I'm particularly fond of:
1. "Docks of New York" (1928) George Bancroft, Betty Compson
2. "Lucky Star" (1929) Janet Gaynor, Charles Farrell
3. "The Toll Gate" (1920) William S. Hart, Anna Q. Nilsson
4. "Wild Oranges" (1924) Frank Mayo, Virginia Valli
5. "Underground" (1928-British) Brian Aherne, Elissa Landi
6. "Stella Maris" (1918) Mary Pickford, Conway Tearle
7. "Redskin" (1929) Richard Dix, Gladys Belmont
8. "A Kiss for Cinderella" (1925) Betty Bronson, Tom Moore
9. "Asphalt" (1929-German) Betty Amann, Gustav Frolich
10. "Robin Hood" (1923) Douglas Fairbanks, Enid Bennett
But, there's a ton of 'little' films from the silent era that I often enjoy just as much, if not more, than a lot of the classics. Some that have clicked nicely with me, and had a good re-watchability factor include:
1. "The Matinee Idol" (1928) Bessie Love, Johnny Walker
2. "Lorraine of the Lions" (1925) Patsy Ruth Miller
3. "Padlocked" (1926) Lois Moran, Louise Dresser
4. "13 Washington Square" (1928) Jean Hersholt, Alice Joyce
5. "The False Road" (1920) Enid Bennett, Lloyd Hughes
6. "What Happened to Jones" (1926) Reginald Denny
7. "The Apple Tree Girl" (1917) Shirley Mason
8. "Wild Horse Mesa" (1925) Jack Holt, Billie Dove
9. "The Thirteenth Hour" (1927) Conrad Nagel, Leila Hyams
10. "Go and Get It" (1920) Pat O'Malley, Agnes Ayres
One thing I would like to see from some dvd company would be a really nice collection of all those Helen Holmes 'railroad' films, from the 1910s "Hazards of Helen" episodes to the 1920s features produced by her husband, J.P. McGowan, all looking nicely restored. Most of the public-domain prints circulating around are in such ratty shape. I love them, but they're all such eyesores.
re: What was your favorite horror, Sci fi or fantasy movie when you were just a kid under 12?
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion on 3/23/26 at 10:44 pm to Dawglovertoo
It was actually "King Kong" (1933) for me, too. There was just something so mesmerizing about that whole classic romantic-fantasy-adventure style which grabbed me quite thoroughly as a kid. Led me eventually to read old pulp magazine stories, and seek out similar stuff like "Island of Lost Souls" (1933) and "Tarzan and his Mate" (1934). I bought Fay Wray's autobiography, and always hoped to get her to sign it. Saw her at an event once, but didn't manage to meet her. But I did get to at least meet Maureen O'Sullivan, Gloria Stuart, Mae Clarke, and some others who toiled in vintage horror-fantasy fare of that period.
I remember when the 1976 "King Kong" remake came out. I was excited to see it. I even remember the 7-11 had 'King Kong' Icee cups, promoting it. But when I went to see it, it was like a dull, uninvolving thud. Didn't grab me in the least. In fact, I haven't even bothered to watch it since that one encounter.
I remember when the 1976 "King Kong" remake came out. I was excited to see it. I even remember the 7-11 had 'King Kong' Icee cups, promoting it. But when I went to see it, it was like a dull, uninvolving thud. Didn't grab me in the least. In fact, I haven't even bothered to watch it since that one encounter.
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