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re: VIDEO: Florida woman kills man. . .over WalMart parking space. NSFW Could be SYG or murder
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:26 pm to Ricardo
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:26 pm to Ricardo
I need to know which video some of y'all are watching because that old dude wasn't "charging" anyone. 
He walks slowly past her from right to left in the video. She take 3-4 steps FOLLOWING behind him. Then he turns around and takes two VERY slow steps towards her, still about 10-15ft away, when she pops him.
Some of y'all are acting like she took down some charging crackhead. She's going to jail.
He walks slowly past her from right to left in the video. She take 3-4 steps FOLLOWING behind him. Then he turns around and takes two VERY slow steps towards her, still about 10-15ft away, when she pops him.
Some of y'all are acting like she took down some charging crackhead. She's going to jail.
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:29 pm to Tigerdew
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I need to know which video some of y'all are watching because that old dude wasn't "charging" anyone.
The longer video.
If someone pulls a gun on you and you continue to advance towards them, despite them clearly retreating, you deserve to get shot.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:32 pm to onelochevy
Was the force proportionate? A jury will have to decide that. But, if you can avoid dealing with a black person, you are safer, They love violence, it is their first choice in a dispute, a well-documented fact, not racism, realism.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:38 pm to ninthward
quote:Hilariously wrong
That's murder.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:38 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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The longer video.
If someone pulls a gun on you and you continue to advance towards them, despite them clearly retreating, you deserve to get shot.
I still don't see any "charging" though.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:39 pm to ninthward
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Again, could she have run away? - YES
Was her life in danger? - NO
Is pulling a sidearm and engaging in an argument defensive behavior? - NOPE
This is the proper analysis. But gun nuts love to pull their gun and claim they had no other choice. You dont get to pull a gun because somebody disagrees with you.
Somebody in this thread said any man is a threat of great bodily harm to a woman if the man is mad. Some of yall really are retarded.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:40 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Hilariously wrong
How?
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:40 pm to bigpetedatiga
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The standard has to be the standard across the board. We can't just keep moving the goal post to suit our biases.
100%. Abandoning objectivity for "team politics" is what our foreign adversaries love to see.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:43 pm to Tigerdew
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I still don't see any "charging" though.
I don't think anyone alleged that he was "charging" her.
If your wife was being confronted by a man, and she pulls a gun out of fear, and that man makes any move to close distance with her, should she shoot or wait and see what happens?
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:51 pm to Scruffy
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Was she in imminent threat of bodily harm or death when she shot him?
If he was advancing on her in an aggressive manner, yes. Was he is the question. Not if she was justified IF he was.
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Did he have a weapon?
Not required to meet self defense standards, IMO.Correct. But if definitely would help her defense if he did.
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Who instigated the confrontation?
Important to determine.
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Did he approach her car at the beginning of the argument and threaten her?
More important if he continued to approach her car and threaten her. Definitely important but helps her case if he began by approaching her with threats. On the flip side, if she instigated the argument, returned to her car and got the gun, and continued the argument, one could argue she escalated the situation.
Looking at several videos that have been posted, it seems both were being extremely stupid. It does not seem to be a shut and closed case either direction imo. However, I lean towards she will get prosecuted because it appears she escalated the situation and when she pulled the trigger he was a car lengths away, not moving aggressively or fast at her, and thus she was not in imminent threat of bodily harm or death.
This will be interesting to see what happens.
Hopefully people will learn to just let things be and not get engaged in petty disputes that lead to death.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:53 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I still don't see any "charging" though.
I don't think anyone alleged that he was "charging" her.
Correct. He pursued her around another vehicle while a gun was pointed at his person.
That is the definition of a death wish.
His speed is irrelevant.
That gun can just as easily point at her if she didn't continue to retreat.
She is subject to the discretion of the police, district attorney, and possibly a jury. Her self defense claim is only that. A claim. That is what happens when she pulls a gun like that.
But if I am the police, district attorney, or juror, I am not charging or convicting her unless she said something provoking his forward progress to her.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:57 pm to Tigerdew
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He walks slowly past her from right to left in the video. She take 3-4 steps FOLLOWING behind him. Then he turns around and takes two VERY slow steps towards her, still about 10-15ft away, when she pops him.
Nah the clip is much longer than that.
He follows her around. I don't think she should have shot him, he didn't appear an actual threat. But if I'm that guy, I'm just walking away.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:59 pm to Tigerdew
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She take 3-4 steps FOLLOWING behind him.
She may have been trying to get into the car to leave the area, she may have been just trying to head towards the store. Impossible to tell.
Looks like self-defense to me.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:03 pm to Roaad
quote:you need to fix your title
Florida woman murders man in cold blood. . .over WalMart parking space.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:10 pm to SuperSaint
Done
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:44 pm to Roaad
When is the riot? I want to make sure I am happily unemployed, EBT'd up, and calculating my reparations so I can attend that day.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:45 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:While I agree with everything you said & think he should have walked away. I'm going to play devil's advocate and look at it from the other side. Based solely on the video that was provided. She got out of the car brandishing the gun. That doesn't say self-defense to me. If she was trully scared staying in the car would align more with someone who felt threatened. She was the aggressor, threatening him multiple times by pointing the gun at him.
She gave him ample opportunity to just walk away but he chose not to.
To reiterate, the guy made very poor decisions which ultimately led to his death. He should have went inside and completed his shopping, but there's an element here that deserves a little discussion.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:50 pm to Roaad
Walking towards someone should not be self defense grounds, absent other factors like verbal threats or displays of dangerous weapons.
Curious to see how this plays out.
Curious to see how this plays out.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 5:02 pm to Roaad
Somebody needs to add her to this. Dude was probably high or drunk or maybe just stupid.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 5:12 pm to Tigerdew
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still don't see any "charging" though
I wouldn’t call it charging but he was pacing and took a solid step towards her right when she shot him.
Not justifying it or Monday Morning QBing, but he was definitely moving towards her when she took the shot.
Up to the Jury on that one but that step will be analyzed and argued over a lot.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 5:13 pm
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