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re: Top law enforcement officials beg legislators not to override concealed carry veto
Posted on 7/8/21 at 6:23 pm to BFANLC
Posted on 7/8/21 at 6:23 pm to BFANLC
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So I guess y'all are ok with removing the one law that let's guns be removed from criminals?
What are you talking about, Officer? This is simply saying we dont need permission from the govt on how we choose to bear arms as the 2nd already clearly states. If someone is committing a crime with a weapon they will still lose said weapon.
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 6:33 pm to rattlebucket
I'm talking about you guys talking out both ends of your arse.
All I see on here is key board warriors laughing about crime. Then y'all complain that's nothing done about crime, then laws that keep guns off the streets are removed and you wonder why there are so many murders.
Someone mentioned that 40? of murders aren't solved in BR. So what the officers in BR are out numbered 25k to 1....how many investigators are there? 50? That means 60? of murders are solved by a dept overwhelmed.
Yet here some of y'all are complaining. Fraid ya rights are gonna be taken away lol every right you have is regulated. How bout this get off your arse and do something. I mean only 60? of murders are solved, these "clowns" blah blah blah surely you guys are smart enough to figure out a better way to do it.
Any of y'all done anything about crime or making this country great except type?
All I see on here is key board warriors laughing about crime. Then y'all complain that's nothing done about crime, then laws that keep guns off the streets are removed and you wonder why there are so many murders.
Someone mentioned that 40? of murders aren't solved in BR. So what the officers in BR are out numbered 25k to 1....how many investigators are there? 50? That means 60? of murders are solved by a dept overwhelmed.
Yet here some of y'all are complaining. Fraid ya rights are gonna be taken away lol every right you have is regulated. How bout this get off your arse and do something. I mean only 60? of murders are solved, these "clowns" blah blah blah surely you guys are smart enough to figure out a better way to do it.
Any of y'all done anything about crime or making this country great except type?
Posted on 7/8/21 at 6:35 pm to Bongo
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Strange that it’s legal to open carry but the second the citizen conceals the firearm, that’s where these cops have a problem.
If open carrying was illegal and we were trying to legalize it, they'd say the same things. Police are not on your side.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 6:36 pm to BFANLC
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So I guess y'all are ok with removing the one law that let's guns be removed from criminals?
Great, police pull over a criminal the guy gets to keep his guns nice.
Well if they’re a criminal or committing a criminal act then it would be taken.
A “criminal” pulled over for speeding with no warrants, not a felon, and has nothing criminal going on is just a citizen like you.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 6:38 pm to brass2mouth
A criminal selling drugs would get his gun back. Not hard to understand.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 6:47 pm to BFANLC
The 2nd amendment doesn't say anything about criminals not being allowed guns.
There are plenty of non violent crimes that are felonies, meaning a white collar criminal loses his rights to arms.
Chip chipping away...
There are plenty of non violent crimes that are felonies, meaning a white collar criminal loses his rights to arms.
Chip chipping away...
Posted on 7/8/21 at 6:59 pm to BFANLC
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A criminal selling drugs would get his gun back. Not hard to understand.
Are you referencing to acquiring the gun legally? Or no?
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:00 pm to Bout_Dat_Lyfe
fricking pigs lmao. Always wanting everyday citizens’ rights to be restricted so they can have an easier job.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:08 pm to Damone
First of all, it is a good thing for citizens rights that cops wouldn't be able to profile you for being a gun owner, think about how scary that is regardless of where you live.
Second, all free men should have the right to defend themselves with modern technology, also TONS of felonies are straight up bullshite like every crime without a victim.
Finally, regardless of the law change it isn't going to change anyone's behavior, it is just going to allow citizens to EXERCISE A RIGHT, not a right given to us by government, but a natural right that our founders clearly established was something not to be INFRINGED upon. I bet it is a very small part of the population that will begin to carry that didn't before, most CCW holders don't even carry religiously.
Second, all free men should have the right to defend themselves with modern technology, also TONS of felonies are straight up bullshite like every crime without a victim.
Finally, regardless of the law change it isn't going to change anyone's behavior, it is just going to allow citizens to EXERCISE A RIGHT, not a right given to us by government, but a natural right that our founders clearly established was something not to be INFRINGED upon. I bet it is a very small part of the population that will begin to carry that didn't before, most CCW holders don't even carry religiously.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:10 pm to BFANLC
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All I see on here is key board warriors laughing about crime. Then y'all complain that's nothing done about crime, then laws that keep guns off the streets are removed and you wonder why there are so many murders.
Very doubtful there has ever been a single murder that was prevented because the potential perpetrator thought “I better not do this because it is illegal to carry a concealed gun.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:11 pm to armsdealer
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First of all, it is a good thing for citizens rights that cops wouldn't be able to profile you for being a gun owner, think about how scary that is regardless of where you live.
Second, all free men should have the right to defend themselves with modern technology, also TONS of felonies are straight up bullshite like every crime without a victim.
Finally, regardless of the law change it isn't going to change anyone's behavior, it is just going to allow citizens to EXERCISE A RIGHT, not a right given to us by government, but a natural right that our founders clearly established was something not to be INFRINGED upon. I bet it is a very small part of the population that will begin to carry that didn't before, most CCW holders don't even carry religiously.
quote:name checks out, I do completely agree with you though
armsdealer
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:12 pm to Matt225
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The issue is most of our DA like Hillar Moore -EBR, Jason Williams -- NO, Scott Perrilloux -- Hammond. etc will plead them down
Mandatory minimums are BS.
The ATF doesn't even prosecute guns they recover from felons when they "Proceed" a background check then later change their mind. First time it happened I kind of freaked out but the ATF said it was NICS fault and they brought the gun back to us and voided the 4473... When I asked what to do with the gun they said it was up to me, the transaction never happened and that the person couldn't come back to the store and was told not to expect a refund because they should have known better. This happens more often than you would imagine.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:14 pm to Bout_Dat_Lyfe
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imagine going into a shooting situation, and you walk in a room and everybody's holding a gun? You're not going to know who the bad guy--who the good guys are
Seems like this would be more desirable than responding to a shooting, walking into a room where several people are dead, and the shooter long gone.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:14 pm to armsdealer
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armsdealer
I like the cut of your jib, sir.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:15 pm to Bout_Dat_Lyfe
This is a waste of time and they need to focus on the real problem.. People who are going to carry will carry. Every single person in the streets of North Baton Rouge & parts of South Baton Rouge are carrying and I think most people would agree this is 100% true (not every resident, I am talking about every single dealer, gang member, everyone in the streets).
So its not like all of a sudden more people in the streets will start carrying. I do agree with the gun training thing, in an ideal world everyone should have gun training, but on the other hand.. how realistic is it considering criminals are carrying no matter what the law is?
So its not like all of a sudden more people in the streets will start carrying. I do agree with the gun training thing, in an ideal world everyone should have gun training, but on the other hand.. how realistic is it considering criminals are carrying no matter what the law is?
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:15 pm to Damone
You’re better off protecting yourself and your family in BR against the violent and criminal tPOS element of the city, and they certainly slime their way into the nicer parts of the city looking to victimize.
BRPD certainly isn’t going to really care about what happens to you if you become a victim of violent crime.
BRPD certainly isn’t going to really care about what happens to you if you become a victim of violent crime.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:46 pm to SlickRickerz
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Like with Alton Sterling, at first glance he can legally conceal that “pistol” now, so in situations like that, it would be a wrongful death on the cops part
No he couldn’t. He was a felon
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:48 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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I'm an LEO and this couldn't be more accurate. "When seconds count, cops are minutes away." When I was a shift sergeant, I had 7-8 deputies on a good day working for me. My district had over 150,000 residents. Do the math. We can't be everywhere at once. Hold your GOP state reps' feet to the fire. Let them know in no uncertain terms if they don't support the veto override, their career is over.
Amen
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:50 pm to SlickRickerz
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So their classic excuse to profile a certain class is use the excuse “Well he had a gun.”
So cops are racist?
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