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re: The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s

Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:32 pm to
I wonder if he owns any livestock in Big 12 country
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:33 pm to
His wife takes her family’s plane to buy Louis Vuitton purses
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:36 pm to
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I want rainbolt to chime and and give us an address because depending on location I bet that house is at LEAST the national average and wouldn't surprise me if it was in the 75th percentile for home prices regardless of square footage.


I got you:

3507 W 78th St, Prairie Village, KS 66208

Estimated $550,000, and it doesn't look as nice as the touched up images

LINK

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:39 pm to
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3507 W 78th St, Prairie Village, KS 66208

Estimated $550,000, and it doesn't look as nice as the touched up images
definitely an old school blue collar home like hhtm said
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:40 pm to
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Estimated $550,000

shite the wife can probably stay at home with the kids as long as the pest control job is steady
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:41 pm to
Just looked at a few 3/2s 2k sqft in that zip code currently for sale. Upper 500s lmao
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:42 pm to
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This is the “dream house” that a 1965 auto worker in Michigan was living in



Zillow’s estimated market value for the house in that photo is $548,000.
quote:

This house being built today would not sell above construction costs:



According to Zillow, that exact house sold in 2023 for $1.3 million.

Here’s a Street View link if you doubt it’s the same house.

ETA: I see you’ve already been called out on this. But damn, I’m impressed at how well you managed to undermine your own point with those examples.
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:42 pm to
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People enjoy bitching about perceived ills. An undeniable fact of human nature.


One of the keys to happiness is learning to enjoy being thankful. It’s why so many are miserable. People focus too much on the house they have, the one they want, what someone else has…it’s just a place to keep your stuff and lay your head between living your life, at least that’s my take.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:49 pm to
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And they are 50% more expensive than 8 years ago.


So they basically kept up with inflation; shocking

And your 50% more expensive is BS as well F150 4x4 Lariat was $60K MSRP in 2016; Same vehicle MSRP for 2026 is $75K.

Expensive yes; but it's more like a 25% increase not 50%
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 10:00 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:57 pm to
I'm just assuming HHTM is memeing the stereotypical boomer that appears in these types of threads.

Hell in the last one there was a poster who posted a whole list of "affordable" homes and I think the average price per sqft was nearly 300 dollars lol.

Another posted a 350k house that was being listed for lot value.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74283 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:04 pm to
Nah,

I consider myself a “Thomas sowell conservative”

I let data and *context* of data guide my views.

You can 100% disagree, but I think there is a lot more nuance (to say the least) in the housing doomerism. The people who claim that homes were cheaper and easier to get in the 1960s-90s are leaving out context that at the very least explains some of the cost differences.


An honest interpretation of the data, for example, would compare a x square foot house in 1979 with a x square foot house in 2026, and would include amenities. I’d go a step further and include person per household and average real income/wages
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:07 pm to
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Nah


I believe you
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74283 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:20 pm to
You can call me what you want lol

I just don’t buy the idea that modern life is worse than life in the 50s-90s.


I do think the data at the very least makes that assertion questionable.

Housing, crime, real wages, etc
Posted by lazlodawg
Member since Sep 2017
616 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:33 pm to
It's just another Doomer pity party.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:27 pm to
Laugh, bitch. Its the truth.

I'm camping and fishing all week while you pitches are working all week.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35891 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:37 pm to
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Median home size has almost doubled, rising from about 1,150 square feet in 1956 to roughly 2,210 square feet today. Over the same period, average household size has shrunk from 3.3 people to 2.51. The result is a dramatic increase in living space per person—from just 348 square feet in 1956 to about 880 square feet today. That’s 532 more square feet per person, or a 153 percent increase. Had space per person stayed at its 1956 level, the typical home today would measure only about 874 square feet.



Here's an idea to help make homes more affordable: build smaller homes.

Obviously bigger homes aren't needed, especially bigger homes than they had in the 1950's if the household size is also smaller.

874 square feet per person is a pretty large amount. Most one bedroom apartments are smaller than that
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74283 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:56 pm to
Home builders have tried to build smaller homes and they just aren’t in demand
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:24 am to
Lol at zelllinials or whatever they're called
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15018 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:22 am to
I LOVE this...The crybabies who don't want a low sq foot starter home, and are too spoiled to not start with what their parents had accumulated in their 40's and 50's, just had their poor me narrative blown right out of their arse.
Stop whining and lower your ridiculous instagram ready standards.
BTW ...cut your own grass and quit eating out every meal....it's helps pay that mortgage.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55839 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:56 am to
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Interesting choice in year to cherry pick. I’m sure that wasn’t intentional…

I did not see anything in your chart that made 1956 seem suspicious? And note that your chart did not correct for the size of the home.
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