re: The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s

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Square footage on homes is often overlooked when people compare prices across different decades.
My grandmother's house had 2 bedrooms, one bath, and a window AC unit added much later.
No one would stoop to buy a house like that these days.

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And had 6-7 siblings. Especially the Catholic families down here.

This was not a Stout thread.

Boomers did this

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Because I think home builders realized people just really want homes, and could build bigger more expensive homes and people will still buy them absent of other options

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Same with truck. Don’t build cheap trucks and you force people to buy expensive trucks.

Also notice that graph stops before COVID. It's now around 250 to 300 compared to the 100 baseline, by far the highest in history

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Maybe they wouldn't have struggled so much if your dad worked more than 25 hours a week or tried to do better than grocery store bagger. Your dad worked less than I did when I was 15 lmao.

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My father was a Vietnam PoW who was barely functional after coming back home. He worked full time at a furniture store putting furniturre together. My mother was a bank teller. Neither graduated from high school but they both worked full time and never took a dime in handouts.

Your comment is ignorant and reflects the increasing coarseness of dialogue today. You have nothing constructive to add so you resort to personal attacks and moronic statements to try and score points.

They both did the best they could with the hands they were delt and eventually by sacrificing and working hard broke a generations long cycle of poverty. I don't feel sorry for anyone today who won't do what is necessary to succeed. I do feel sorry for you that your heart is so filled with malice and and your mind with ignorance.

The Cato institute, huh?

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He worked full time at a furniture store putting furniturre together.



So what you're trying to convince us of is that your dad worked full time for less than $2.00/hr in 1980. Sorry baw, that dog don't hunt.

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My mother was a bank teller



Based on your posts she was making only 3.25/hr. 15 cents above minimum wage. Looks like national average was nearly double that for a bank teller in 1980.


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I don't feel sorry for anyone today who won't do what is necessary to succeed. I do feel sorry for you that your heart is so filled with malice and and your mind with ignorance.



You don't have to feel sorry for anyone. Just don't make shite up next time. It's not that hard.

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My statements are 100% accurate. You choose to not believe me because it crushes your worldview and you refuse to modify your opinion because you are not intellectually honest. My father made $75 per week (take home). He worked for Neighlors Furniture. My mother worked as a bank teller. Her pay is accurate. Everything I've stated here is true. You choose not to believe it. That's fine- it's the internet. As long as you can go on in ignorance and not have to modify your opinion, I guess you'll be happy.

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BTW, you are also making the exact points that people have been saying in these threads, you just don't know it.

If we are to take your story at face value (which no one should), your parents were able to purchase, own and maintain a house while raising children on less than minimum wage.


Let me know the next time you'd support a couple of McDonald's fry cooks lobbying for minimum wage to be raised to the point that they could purchase a home and raise a family on their fry cook wages.

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No, I'm not, you're just to stupid to realize it.

Feel free to call me a liar again behind the anonymity of your keyboard, tough guy.

The point is that not very many people are willing to do the things my parents did to escape poverty. You would not live there and share a car and go without AC. Cry me a river about how tough it is now.