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HailHailtoMichigan!
| Favorite team: | US Space Force |
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re: The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 11:56 pm to magildachunks
Home builders have tried to build smaller homes and they just aren’t in demand
re: The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 10:20 pm to JohnnyKilroy
You can call me what you want lol
I just don’t buy the idea that modern life is worse than life in the 50s-90s.
I do think the data at the very least makes that assertion questionable.
Housing, crime, real wages, etc
I just don’t buy the idea that modern life is worse than life in the 50s-90s.
I do think the data at the very least makes that assertion questionable.
Housing, crime, real wages, etc
re: On this day, 1 June ...
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 10:15 pm to scrooster
As a Yankee, I respect Lee.
Men like Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill had very high words of praise for Lee. Ike kept a portrait of him.
Lee could have easily refused to surrender, continue a guerrilla campaign against the north, costing more lives of his men in a quixotic quest, but he acknowledged reality and laid down his arms. He implored his men to give up the cause.
You hear snarky comments about him being a traitor, but in Lee’s time, people generally considered themselves citizens of their state before their country
Men like Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill had very high words of praise for Lee. Ike kept a portrait of him.
Lee could have easily refused to surrender, continue a guerrilla campaign against the north, costing more lives of his men in a quixotic quest, but he acknowledged reality and laid down his arms. He implored his men to give up the cause.
You hear snarky comments about him being a traitor, but in Lee’s time, people generally considered themselves citizens of their state before their country
re: The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 10:04 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Nah,
I consider myself a “Thomas sowell conservative”
I let data and *context* of data guide my views.
You can 100% disagree, but I think there is a lot more nuance (to say the least) in the housing doomerism. The people who claim that homes were cheaper and easier to get in the 1960s-90s are leaving out context that at the very least explains some of the cost differences.
An honest interpretation of the data, for example, would compare a x square foot house in 1979 with a x square foot house in 2026, and would include amenities. I’d go a step further and include person per household and average real income/wages
I consider myself a “Thomas sowell conservative”
I let data and *context* of data guide my views.
You can 100% disagree, but I think there is a lot more nuance (to say the least) in the housing doomerism. The people who claim that homes were cheaper and easier to get in the 1960s-90s are leaving out context that at the very least explains some of the cost differences.
An honest interpretation of the data, for example, would compare a x square foot house in 1979 with a x square foot house in 2026, and would include amenities. I’d go a step further and include person per household and average real income/wages
re: The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 8:55 pm to Sun God
I’m not a boomer
I’m 31
I’m 31
re: The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 8:35 pm to Salmon
I can tell you with a million % confidence that a college educated couple with jobs in finance, stem, health, etc are not living in that home or remotely buying it
This is the home yuppies are moving into as first time buyers
From my own neck of the woods
LINK
This is the home yuppies are moving into as first time buyers
From my own neck of the woods
LINK
re: The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 8:25 pm to Salmon
Yea, they’d sell to a couple where the wife is a bank teller and the husband a pest control employee.
re: The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 8:21 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Ultimately, home builders are going to build what consumers want.
As real wages rose dramatically in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s, so too did the demand for larger homes.
This house being built today would not sell above construction costs:
The idea that a recently married couple- the wife a nurse and the husband in finance- would buy this house is a fricking joke.
As real wages rose dramatically in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s, so too did the demand for larger homes.
This house being built today would not sell above construction costs:
The idea that a recently married couple- the wife a nurse and the husband in finance- would buy this house is a fricking joke.
re: The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 8:01 pm to Archives
Yep.
This is the “dream house” that a 1965 auto worker in Michigan was living in
This is the “dream house” that a 1965 auto worker in Michigan was living in
re: The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 7:53 pm to TheGeauxt9
Do you have alternative data?
The “time price” of square foot of housing is 24% lower than the 1950s
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 7:47 pm
The myth that your parents and grandparents had it better off re housing
Jeremy Horpedahl, an associate professor of economics at the University of Central Arkansas and a Cato Institute adjunct scholar, completed an analysis on housing amenities and found the following:
Jeremy Horpedahl, an associate professor of economics at the University of Central Arkansas and a Cato Institute adjunct scholar, completed an analysis on housing amenities and found the following:
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On average, only 22 percent of homes had the amenities Horpedahl looked at in 1956; today, 82 percent of them do.
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Median home size has almost doubled, rising from about 1,150 square feet in 1956 to roughly 2,210 square feet today. Over the same period, average household size has shrunk from 3.3 people to 2.51. The result is a dramatic increase in living space per person—from just 348 square feet in 1956 to about 880 square feet today. That’s 532 more square feet per person, or a 153 percent increase. Had space per person stayed at its 1956 level, the typical home today would measure only about 874 square feet.
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The median home cost about $14,500 in 1956—roughly $12.61 per square foot. With average wages at $1.85 an hour, each square foot required 6.82 hours of earning. Today, the median home price is about $420,300, or $190.18 per square foot. However, average wages have risen to $36.53 an hour (before benefits), bringing the time price down to 5.21 hours per square foot. So, while the dollar price per square foot has risen 15-fold, wages have increased nearly 20-fold. The result is the time price of housing has fallen by almost 24 percent.
Compared to 1956, we now enjoy 532 more square feet per person as well as homes packed with 3.7 times more amenities—and all of it for about 24 percent less time per square foot.
re: Bodycam footage released of British man left to bleed out by cops. Henry Nowak.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 5:18 pm to Radio One
That might be true but Sikh doesn’t rhyme with Dindu
Bodycam footage released of British man left to bleed out by cops. Henry Nowak.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 5:10 pm
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If tweet fails to load, click here. TLDR: a Hindu Dindu stabbed an innocent British young man. When the cops arrived, the Hindu Dindu claimed Nowak was racially abusing him. The cops believed the Hindu Dindu and cuffed Henry as he bled out.
The Hindu Dindu was eventually convicted and jailed for life, but these cops should all be jailed as well
re: National Average Gasoline Price Crashes Week over Week
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 6/1/26 at 8:38 am to ragincajun03
Why are they falling? There’s been no breakthrough re: Hormuz
re: Why are we negotiating with Iran?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 5/31/26 at 7:25 pm to Powerman
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Because the outcome would be a disaster?
This nihilistic bs enrages me.
We spend more on military than any nation sans China.
What’s the point of having the most powerful military if cynical, eeyore people like you automatically assume we won’t win a conflict?
re: Why are we negotiating with Iran?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 5/31/26 at 7:22 pm to Powerman
The 1950s and 1990s are widely regarded as periods of immense happiness and patriotism in America.
Why?
Because we just won a world war and the Cold War and war in Kuwait, respectively.
I want that
Why?
Because we just won a world war and the Cold War and war in Kuwait, respectively.
I want that
re: What are some good, high paying jobs that are undersaturated right now?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 5/31/26 at 7:14 pm to Chastains
Urologist
Health insurance biller and coder
Truck driver
Hazardous waste document processor
Health insurance biller and coder
Truck driver
Hazardous waste document processor
re: Why are we negotiating with Iran?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 5/31/26 at 7:02 pm to lurking
Why does that make me a scumbag?
re: Why are we negotiating with Iran?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 5/31/26 at 6:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
I want trump to invade Iran with US troops
There, I said it. Downvote me but I am just being honest.
America is in desperate need of optimism and a renewed sense of strength.
Military conquest and success is a surefire way to rekindle the fire of the US spirit.
I want Trump walking the streets of Tehran by August 1st.
There, I said it. Downvote me but I am just being honest.
America is in desperate need of optimism and a renewed sense of strength.
Military conquest and success is a surefire way to rekindle the fire of the US spirit.
I want Trump walking the streets of Tehran by August 1st.
re: Maine dem senate nominee sent sexually explicit texts to as many as 12 women while married
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 5/31/26 at 1:14 pm to Timeoday
Yes
Maine dem senate nominee sent sexually explicit texts to as many as 12 women while married
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 5/31/26 at 1:09 pm
Unreal that dems are circling the wagon for this piece of trash against, statistically speaking, the most moderate senator of the 21st century
NYT
The fact that dems are standing by him shows that they were never serious about their “moral concerns” re: Trump.
If *susan Collins* is too right wing for you compared to an anti semitic socialist adulterer who mocks wounded soldiers, then you are too far gone
But board moderates like VOR, Powerman, and crystal preserves will rationalize it
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Graham Platner’s insurgent bid for Senate in Maine was gathering steam last summer when his campaign was confronted with some potentially explosive information.
Mr. Platner’s wife, Amy Gertner, told a senior campaign aide that he had been exchanging sexual messages with multiple other women.
NYT
The fact that dems are standing by him shows that they were never serious about their “moral concerns” re: Trump.
If *susan Collins* is too right wing for you compared to an anti semitic socialist adulterer who mocks wounded soldiers, then you are too far gone
But board moderates like VOR, Powerman, and crystal preserves will rationalize it
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