re: Spurs rookie Lonnie Walker: ‘Will never celebrate 4th of July. Know your history’

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I know this isnt that time. But the 4th is all about celebrating that time. I love being an American. Would not care to live anywhere else. But I would argue my ancestors did not become true Americans until they were freed from slavery. Look, I have no problem at all with the 4th. I enjoy the time. Just don't be surprised when some people don't have the same excitement for the holiday.

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The interesting thing about the Declaration of Independence was that many of the founding fathers wanted to abolish slavery as well. This is text that was removed from the Declaration regarding slavery.

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he has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemispere, or to incure miserable death in their transportation hither. this piratical warfare, the opprobium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the Christian king of Great Britain. [determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought and sold,] he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce [determining to keep open a market where MEN should be bought and sold]: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he had deprived them, by murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.

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Unfortunately, there were many that were not willing to give up their slaves. Slavery is intolerable, but those opposed ultimately capitulated to the southern colonies and decided to amend the language. End the end, the country did abolish slavery and i believe as a whole has worked to right many of the wrongs. However, there will always be those on both sides that either refuse to learn from the past or refuse to acknowledge the progress made.

My fault for not elaborating for you. Was merely giving the basis for why Lonnie feels how he does and a shorthanded reasaon

Kinda weird seeing he's about to cash in on being a professional basketball player. Which is one of the most American things I can think of.

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I was just explaining why I understand some don't

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I don't think the problem here is that Lonnie doesn't celebrate the 4th. He makes it known on social media that he has a problem with America, and ends his silly statement with "stay woke," implying that celebrating our nation's independence is inherently racist. Honestly, I don't care what Lonnie does. I had no idea who he was until I wandered into this thread.

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What the hell does stay woke mean?

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To stay up with current events or happenings deeper than just on the surface.

For instance, the national anthem. We all sing the one that we've learned since school. However if you were to google and read the whole song there's a demeaning part in the second verse (i believe).

Another example is how a cops will react differently based on your race regardless if the situation is the same on both side. That even though the two in question people may be of equal standard, doesn't mean they'll be treated the same by a officer of the law or even in a court room.

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Seeing 25 year olds do it is just awful, IMO. Obviously I don't object to Juneteenth, but black Americans are Americans, and the 4th celebrates America (including them).

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That is why I celebrate the 4th. I am American, 100%. Just as much as anyone else here.

I just don't want to get to a point where we remember all the good things and simply forget all the bad. I want everything to be remembered for what it truly was. Not to place blame or to make anyone feel guilty. But I feel it is important to not overly romanticize things.

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Oh frick off with this “we” bull shite. You and every other black person alive today has never been a slave. Stop living in the past and judging white people on things their ancestors did in a time where morals and the world were completely different. And don’t forget, Black people sold other black people into slavery in the first place.

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Clearly you're missing the point of the conversation but what do you expect from ignorance.

Know your history?

Yes, I'm sure every nation in Africa is full of altruistic, caring, and giving historical events. There definitely aren't any genocides or slave holding groups in the history of Africa. Moron.

Well England had slavery until 1833, so the history of separation by the American colonies makes no sense in whatever context meant by the kid.