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re: Somebody please explain Landry's "school choice" plan to me like I'm 5.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:50 pm to rmc
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:50 pm to rmc
I guess I’ll have to settle for a tshirt. I pay shitloads of money for elementary and secondary education through my property taxes but all I got out of it was this shirt.
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:51 pm to Slippy
If a kid can’t afford to go private school tough shite. Maybe their parents should’ve tried harder. This won’t last.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:54 pm to Sir Drinksalot
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Paying customers don't want public school kids in their schools, and when private schools accept the public school kids they have to turn over their standardized testing scores.
I feel like the number of kids who weren’t going to private school before, but will now be going to a “good” private school is going to be relatively low. I doubt the schools will change their admission requirements, and most of the schools that I know of still have tuition rates that exceed the 7.5k that you receive if you make less than 125k. The only real reason why the current “good” private schools would opt into the program would be if they want to raise their tuition rates to get “extra” money, thus essentially eliminating the folks who are making less than 125k anyway. They aren’t going to opt into this program, have the state tell them that they have to start standardized testing and other requirements while getting nothing in return.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:55 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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this will likely take away funding from public schools
Which the charter schools are already doing. Who are the people who will benefit from this the most.. financially? I am sure there is some connection to some donor.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:58 pm to Slippy
If you want to send your child to a private school, you now have an opportunity. If you want to send your kid to a public school, you can send them there. It’s called school choice for a reason. It forces public schools to either improve or lose students to private schools that accept ESAs. Private schools won’t necessarily increase their prices because of this.
You’re naive to think private schools don’t raise their prices annually be certain percentage. You can see tangible benefits from these increases. People who send their kids to private school care more about their children’s education than public school. When you have real skin in the game you want results.
The is the best piece of legislation to come out of this session. Of course I see a lot of jealous or envious people in here trying to keep the status quo of shitty schools in LA. The only way to attract business/better jobs is through this type of legislation. As is evident from this thread, most of you are public educated citizens of Louisiana are too stupid to understand that.
You’re naive to think private schools don’t raise their prices annually be certain percentage. You can see tangible benefits from these increases. People who send their kids to private school care more about their children’s education than public school. When you have real skin in the game you want results.
The is the best piece of legislation to come out of this session. Of course I see a lot of jealous or envious people in here trying to keep the status quo of shitty schools in LA. The only way to attract business/better jobs is through this type of legislation. As is evident from this thread, most of you are public educated citizens of Louisiana are too stupid to understand that.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:18 pm to Slippy
I am not saying this will magically fix all the problems, but I think this would make things better.
- Give each parish a mark of the amount of funding needed to run its school system. The poorer parishes that don't have the tax base other parishes have the state can supplement what it needs.
- Do away with school boards as they are. Like texas school districts, do not pay school board members. This would hopefully get more people concerned about the quality of education involved and not people who wants the insurance school board members get.
*Maybe consider each HS and and the schools that feed to each HS have its own board. Its a cluster frick when you have all of these districts and each member only cares about theirs which causes them to not be able to do shite as a whole. Its about "whats best for my district so that these people will continue to vote for me" and not "how can we make the school system better as a whole".
These simple moves would be a good move forward.. Then build from there.
- Give each parish a mark of the amount of funding needed to run its school system. The poorer parishes that don't have the tax base other parishes have the state can supplement what it needs.
- Do away with school boards as they are. Like texas school districts, do not pay school board members. This would hopefully get more people concerned about the quality of education involved and not people who wants the insurance school board members get.
*Maybe consider each HS and and the schools that feed to each HS have its own board. Its a cluster frick when you have all of these districts and each member only cares about theirs which causes them to not be able to do shite as a whole. Its about "whats best for my district so that these people will continue to vote for me" and not "how can we make the school system better as a whole".
These simple moves would be a good move forward.. Then build from there.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:18 pm to Slippy
The biggest recipient of this voucher money will be the Catholic Church. This bill seems designed to use tax payer money to bailout the church and cover the cost of settling sexual abuse litigation claims.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:23 pm to Slippy
If public school children start going to private schools who is going to teach 12th graders how to read at 3rd grade level?
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:24 pm to Lickitty Split
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People who send their kids to private school care more about their children’s education than public school. When you have real skin in the game you want results.
In theory, but parents who might not care as much will send their kids to private school because they can. And what happens if some of these private schools have a bigger increase that they can handle? Will they pay the same as public schools to get teachers? Not all private schools are equal.
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Of course I see a lot of jealous or envious people in here trying to keep the status quo of shitty schools in LA.
Before you get too cocky lets see how it works first.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:07 pm to Slippy
I think it's great as long as parents can use it towards private schools rather than govt run indoctrination camps (public schools) that dumb down kids. It would be nice if parents that homeschool could keep that money to buy school supplies and take their kids on school related field trips.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:13 pm to Slippy
It's a fricking raggedy pile of dog shite being flung into a ragging dog shite fire of louisiana education.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:25 pm to ned nederlander
You might be on to something here…
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:26 pm to Epic Cajun
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you only get 5k per kid, if you make less I think you get something like 7.5k.
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In 2020, Louisiana spent on average $11,843 per pupil.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:29 pm to Slippy
Not only will it mess with private schools it will drive the property values down in good school districts, since you don’t have to live in that district to attend the school anymore.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:30 pm to Lickitty Split
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People who send their kids to private school care more about their children’s education than public school. When you have real skin in the game you want results.
Exactly. It's precisely why private schools work. They don't have better teachers, textbooks, facilities, etc. They have a community of parents who care.
Using someone else's tax dollars is the exact opposite of having skin in the game.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:03 pm to HouseMom
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community of parents who care
Why are we still having a discussion?
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:06 pm to Slippy
If anyone in this thread can tell us the current size of the State of Louisiana budget (i.e. total annual spending), you'll realize $500 million or so isn't even a drop in the bucket.
If Louisiana spends $35 BILLION per year (I'm sure it's higher than that in 2024, fiscal YE 2023 is an acceptable proxy), we're talking about 14% of total spending. Louisiana has a state budget roughly on par with Pennsylvania, yet it only has 1/3 of the citizens. Isn't it time we taxpayers got something for our money???
Alabama, Texas and Florida already provide educational vouchers for ALL students, why can't Louisiana????
Same rationale behind dropping the personal income tax: personal income tax only comprises about 8% of total state spending. Get rid off it, 8% doesn't make a difference overall (John Kennedy has said this in multiple speeches as state treasurer). Getting rid of personal income tax makes no difference to the state budget.
The State of Louisiana spends (wastes) so much damn money that redirecting ~15% of spending back to taxpayers won't make a noticeable difference.
Staggering.
If Louisiana spends $35 BILLION per year (I'm sure it's higher than that in 2024, fiscal YE 2023 is an acceptable proxy), we're talking about 14% of total spending. Louisiana has a state budget roughly on par with Pennsylvania, yet it only has 1/3 of the citizens. Isn't it time we taxpayers got something for our money???
Alabama, Texas and Florida already provide educational vouchers for ALL students, why can't Louisiana????
Same rationale behind dropping the personal income tax: personal income tax only comprises about 8% of total state spending. Get rid off it, 8% doesn't make a difference overall (John Kennedy has said this in multiple speeches as state treasurer). Getting rid of personal income tax makes no difference to the state budget.
The State of Louisiana spends (wastes) so much damn money that redirecting ~15% of spending back to taxpayers won't make a noticeable difference.
Staggering.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:07 pm to jpainter6174
Sorry, you're incorrect. Enlisted kids in DoDDS schools turned out just fine, over and over again (getting into Uni, getting decent SAT scores, etc.), because their parents (Pilipino mom, black dad, etc.) made sure they were doing work. IIRC, DoDDS schools were funded less than 50% of what a CONUS school made in the 80s/90s.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:07 pm to RobbBobb
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In 2020, Louisiana spent on average $11,843 per pupil.
I wonder how much of that was administrative payroll.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:09 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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administrative payroll.
A lady from the LA DoE called me to request a replacement PC part. She said, "K as in cat."
I've only said that four times here.
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