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Somebody please explain Landry's "school choice" plan to me like I'm 5.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:42 pm
Every kid in Louisiana now gets private school tuition paid for by the state, regardless of family income?
And this will cost the state $250 million by the third year?
Surely you cannot be serious.
https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/louisiana-education-savings-accounts-pay-parents-to-send-kids-to-private-schools/289-1247a9eb-ffd9-4b25-baf8-db03386235e4
ETA: The House is debating this budgetary leviathan as I type this.
And this will cost the state $250 million by the third year?
Surely you cannot be serious.
https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/louisiana-education-savings-accounts-pay-parents-to-send-kids-to-private-schools/289-1247a9eb-ffd9-4b25-baf8-db03386235e4
ETA: The House is debating this budgetary leviathan as I type this.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 3:45 pm
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:45 pm to Slippy
It will turn out exactly like the TOPS program. Someone will make lots of money.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:45 pm to Slippy
The citizens of Louisiana continue to elect shitty officials into office, then are surprised when these officials frick shite up. News at 11.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:46 pm to Slippy
Sounds like this is just going to make private schools up their tuition even more than they already do.
Huge cost to the state funds and skyrocketed tuition? Great.. /s
Huge cost to the state funds and skyrocketed tuition? Great.. /s
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:48 pm to Slippy
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regardless of family income
No, there are income limits
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:49 pm to Slippy
It's not just for tuition. The accounts will be entirely controlled by the parents/guardians and can be used for pretty much anything learning based.
$250 million is the low end. Upper estimates are $500 million. Every non-public school student will get ~$5k regardless of family income.
I still think they will pass it, only partially fund it and it will be a massive shitstorm in 3 years. Throw in the probability that this will likely take away funding from public schools and private schools will raise tuition to match.
Eta: I didn't see any income limits when reading through the bill. Just a >250% of poverty level gets 55% of the state/district per student funding ($5k).
$250 million is the low end. Upper estimates are $500 million. Every non-public school student will get ~$5k regardless of family income.
I still think they will pass it, only partially fund it and it will be a massive shitstorm in 3 years. Throw in the probability that this will likely take away funding from public schools and private schools will raise tuition to match.
Eta: I didn't see any income limits when reading through the bill. Just a >250% of poverty level gets 55% of the state/district per student funding ($5k).
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:49 pm to LouisianaLady
This will cause private tuition to further explode and guarantee the further degradation of the public school system as the brighter kids get accepted into private systems. The system needs help but this is a give away.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:50 pm to Slippy
In theory it's a good idea to have funding tied to where the child go. In practice, this seems to be an awful way of handling the situation.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:51 pm to iron banks
Just give me a tax credit for the near $30k I pay in private school tuition per year. FFS
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:52 pm to Slippy
It's a lazy way to subsidize private school since the state can't get it's shite together to educate children properly.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:53 pm to Slippy
Executive Summary (like you're 5)
I think Jefe just needs to stick to the current voucher program we have and fund it more in order to close the gap in requests not being granted due to funding limits.
The GATOR scholarship, if passed, is going to drive costs up for everyone.
I think Jefe just needs to stick to the current voucher program we have and fund it more in order to close the gap in requests not being granted due to funding limits.
The GATOR scholarship, if passed, is going to drive costs up for everyone.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:53 pm to Slippy
I don't know 100%, but essentially what it seems like other states do, is that each student is granted a certain percentage of what the state spends per child for public education in an account. The child/parents can use that money for private school, or if the child goes to a public school the money would go to the public school. This should in theory reduce the amount of money given to each public school, because they should only be able to run the school based upon the amount of children attending the school, but I'm not sure if that's how it's going to work. Other states also don't have an income limit, but you know Louisiana has to give more to the poors 
My questions lie with how this is going to impact private schools. Do the schools have to opt into this program? If they do, is there any sort of oversight/control that the state has over their admissions standards? The article refers to parents having to opt into this program, what's the point of that? Why would someone choose not to opt into "free" money to go towards educational expenses? If this state wasn't so stupid and corrupt, I think this program could be a good thing, but I think it's going to end up being a shitshow.
My questions lie with how this is going to impact private schools. Do the schools have to opt into this program? If they do, is there any sort of oversight/control that the state has over their admissions standards? The article refers to parents having to opt into this program, what's the point of that? Why would someone choose not to opt into "free" money to go towards educational expenses? If this state wasn't so stupid and corrupt, I think this program could be a good thing, but I think it's going to end up being a shitshow.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:54 pm to yellowfin
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No, there are income limits
Right, if you make more than something like 120k then you only get 5k per kid, if you make less I think you get something like 7.5k.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:54 pm to Slippy
Louisiana 
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:57 pm to yellowfin
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No, there are income limits
I know that everyone thinks that makes sense, but once again we punish people who have a moderate level of success.
Truly wealthy people don’t need a subsidy, but if you make just enough to pay your bills and send your kids to private school with no help, you’re denied help that less successful people get.
So say the limit is $130k. If you’re making $140k and trying to put multiple kids through private school, you’re just making ends meet. You’d be better off making $120k due to arbitrary income limits, and that’s not right.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:00 pm to Epic Cajun
I read it’s 100% phased out at 150k. I don’t know anyone with household income less than 150k that sends kids to private school
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:00 pm to Earnest_P
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So say the limit is $130k. If you’re making $140k and trying to put multiple kids through private school, you’re just making ends meet. You’d be better off making $120k due to arbitrary income limits, and that’s not right.
It's not all or nothing. If you make more than 125k as a family of 4, you get $5,200 per child, if you make less, then you get $7,500 per child. So yeah, in a sense you are better off if you make 124k than if you make 126k, but it's not like you get nothing.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:01 pm to Slippy
But sending my kids to private school is how I keep them away from the poors.. Are you telling me the poors are going to be in my child's private school??
Not much private about that!!!
Not much private about that!!!
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:02 pm to Epic Cajun
Poster above says it goes away at $150k.
If that is so, I’m taking a pay cut.
If that is so, I’m taking a pay cut.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:03 pm to Earnest_P
how many spots do they think the private schools will open up?
the good private schools are turning people away
the good private schools are turning people away
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 4:04 pm
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