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Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:08 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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I may be naive here but why is this a guaranteed thing? I'd imagine the costs going up some but double? Who would get all this extra tuition? certainly not the teachers. I just don't see why a school would outprice a large number of their students without it benefitting someone.
If the money is going to all families regardless of income, that's $5k (or whatever amount) being shaved off their existing families' tuition bill. It would be nice if they didn't increase tuition, but I think we would be naive to think they won't because.. well.. now they can. They know their families can afford it already.
They also would need to ensure "undesirable" families aren't attending, to ensure they don't lose their "desirable" families. Only way to do that is to make your tuition high enough that the stipend won't cover all/most of it.
Google says there are numerous private schools in Louisiana that are less than $5000-$7500.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:11 pm to Sir Drinksalot
quote:probably because of increased services. Social workers, nurse, dietitian all kinds of crap will be added to be compliant when public funding is received
Why would prices go up? If they do that then budgets go up, and no school will set a budget to a program that isn't tried and true.
Not only that they will know I’ve got 5k extra.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:11 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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I may be naive here but why is this a guaranteed thing? I'd imagine the costs going up some but double? Who would get all this extra tuition? certainly not the teachers. I just don't see why a school would outprice a large number of their students without it benefitting someone.
They may not double it, but if you are a school that charges 8k tuition and you have no problem getting enough kids to go to your school, and all of a sudden each of these families that send kids to your school has an extra 5k of “income” per child that can only go towards tuition, why wouldn’t you up your tuition by 5k? It had no “negative” affect on those families, as they are still out of pocket the same amount, and you’ve greatly increased your revenue.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:11 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Pretty sure that’s not how that works. You pick the school, the govt sends the money to that school.
No it doesn’t
It goes into an ESA
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:31 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Pretty sure that’s not how that works.
You pick the school, the govt sends the money to that school.
In Arizona parents are given a debit card with the money on it. They then submit the receipts to the state for review.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:34 pm to tigerfoot
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probably because of increased services. Social workers, nurse, dietitian all kinds of crap will be added to be compliant when public funding is received
I’d imagine that most schools that are turning away students would opt out of this program if it comes with all these extra requirements.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:40 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:I would hope so.
I’d imagine that most schools that are turning away students would opt out of this program if it comes with all these extra requirements.
Why don’t we fix public schools. Wouldn’t that be the better solution.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:40 pm to nicholastiger
He’s going to give 4.5k towards private school
Posted on 4/8/24 at 5:48 pm to Slippy
It's grift for the homeschool crowds who are opening micro schools. It's also some ed tech pork.
It's pitched as TOPS but there's weird things about how it's funded and what is allowed. Look who lobbied for it.
Just more fat pig Louisiana politicians.
It's pitched as TOPS but there's weird things about how it's funded and what is allowed. Look who lobbied for it.
Just more fat pig Louisiana politicians.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:13 pm to tigerfoot
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Why don’t we fix public schools. Wouldn’t that be the better solution.
Destroying public schools is a feature, not a bug. There are people who are philosophically opposed to the concept of public education. Some of them are here, on a board dedicated to, wait for it, a public educational institution. Others are in the legislature. One of them is in the governor's mansion.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:14 pm to Sir Drinksalot
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I was thinking the same thing.
Why would prices go up?
Because that's what happens when free money is introduced to a system, especially when it's coming from the government.
Here's the likely scenario:
1. -Bill is passed, everyone gets $n per kid for education (the family doesn't get physical hold of it, it just follows the child to whatever school they attend).
2. -Families want to put their kids in private schools, but the private schools cost more than that so families complain that it's "unfair".
3. -Equity Justice Warriors complain that people are taking their kids out of poor schools, thus making them poorer.
4. -Points 2 and 3 add up to enough drama that the legislature raises the amount per child. Rinse and repeat until more families can afford private schools and the poor schools can survive on their dwindling enrollment.
5. -Private schools begin charging more because the state government has shown it will bend over to pay more if enough fuss is made. While they may use this money to hire more teachers, get better facilities, etc at first, they will eventually devolve into spending that money on growing middle management and spending on fripperies.
6. -Rinse and repeat points 2-5 until the system crashes.
If this seems somewhat familiar, it's similar to the impact nearly unrestricted billions of government dollars have done to the college and university systems.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:16 pm to Jim Rockford
Public schools here will never be fixed if the culture of the families that attend them is not.
School choice is a great thing, however, in Louisiana that needs to come in the form of tuition free options such as charter schools or vouchers for top students. Our private school culture is unlike almost any other state in the US, and this proposed plan will (in my opinion) affect families whose children already attend private school in a negative way.
School choice is a great thing, however, in Louisiana that needs to come in the form of tuition free options such as charter schools or vouchers for top students. Our private school culture is unlike almost any other state in the US, and this proposed plan will (in my opinion) affect families whose children already attend private school in a negative way.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:26 pm to rmc
These funds should be sank into the public system. Why support private school attendance when your public is garbage. It would be nice if we did have true school choice between the 2. Back in the day in BR, the pubic schools were good. And growing up in other states, the outliers attended private and everyone else attend good public schools.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:28 pm to Bard
will it replace the voucher system?
Every school knows that is the kiss of death.
Paying customers don't want public school kids in their schools, and when private schools accept the public school kids they have to turn over their standardized testing scores.
Those scores are used to "rank" the schools publicly...and the private school system (at least the Catholic ones) don't ever put anything out there that compares themselves academically.
Every school knows that is the kiss of death.
Paying customers don't want public school kids in their schools, and when private schools accept the public school kids they have to turn over their standardized testing scores.
Those scores are used to "rank" the schools publicly...and the private school system (at least the Catholic ones) don't ever put anything out there that compares themselves academically.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:34 pm to iron banks
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This will cause private tuition to further explode and guarantee the further degradation of the public school system as the brighter kids get accepted into private systems. The system needs help but this is a give away.
Don't forget the part where some well-connecteds open "schools" to latch on to that sweet, sweet government teat - while posting on social media about how society's leeches are causing the downfall of the country.
That's always my favorite scene in this production.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:37 pm to Slippy
I voted for this frick, not like there was much of a choice, but he is a fricking idiot which is surprising because according to this board all it takes is electing (or not electing) people from a certain party and that fixes everything (as if Louisiana politics will not be the same no matter what party you put in office).
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:37 pm to Giantkiller
This is a good take on exactly what’s going to happen.
Does anyone actually want this bill? Are state legislators scared to be a nay vote on an education bill?
Does anyone actually want this bill? Are state legislators scared to be a nay vote on an education bill?
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:41 pm to Slippy
= Louisiana conservatism
Posted on 4/8/24 at 6:45 pm to yellowfin
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I don’t know anyone with household income less than 150k that sends kids to private school
Now you do. My wife and I combined make $90K and send two kids to private.
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