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re: Letting kids walk to/from school. Is the world really that much more unsafe?

Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:31 am to
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:31 am to
I lived in Iowa, with a paper route when Johnny went missing. My parents (mom and step dad) changed nothing about me being out delivering papers at zero dark thirty.

Johnny was a one off.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:40 am to
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and a kid is infinitely more likely to be diddled or kidnapped by a family member, mom’s boyfriend, etc than a stranger

Don't let facts get in the way of a good story line in a Woman's magazine.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:43 am to
yea in general the US is a much much safer place than the mid 70s thru late 90s. Used to be gang wars on the nightly news daily in LA, full on shootouts.

difference is we are exposed to it a lot more due to the internet, 24 hour news cycle and our phones capturing it. Used to be you only heard rumors.....now you see straight up video of the whole shoot out. Even small towns are much safer now, but our perception is that it isnt. The reason is we now hear about the crimes almost immediately instead of it being hidden in the seedy part of town.


now I would argue it has gotten more unsafe to walk to school in most cases though due to traffic, distracted driving and distracted children on their bikes or walking.

but violent crime is down big time pretty much everywhere.

NYC looked like this on Manhattan in the 70s, not all but much of it did.








I mean Baltimore literally looked like the Wire in many places near downtown

Nola housing projects looked like this but way worse in real life in the 80/90s. Desire was a literal hell hole



This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 8:44 am
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:44 am to
Back in the day we walked to school, but you could walk tot eh school. it was within a mile or mile and half of most kids homes and you walked in large groups.

More moms were at home and you had people watching the kids on their walk home. Hell if you did something wrong you house would get a phone call because all the moms or grand mother knew who the kids were.

As we go older, more kids were latch key and so fewer moms were on the watch for misbehavior.

I think mother in the work force affected walking to school more than anything else. Once one thing happed to a kid on the way home guilty parents panicked.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17506 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:45 am to
We had a ditch right across the street from elementary school in our neighborhood we would meet before school and after. Fishing for crawdads, fighting, and just all-around good times growing up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:47 am to
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and a kid is infinitely more likely to be diddled or kidnapped by a family member, mom’s boyfriend, etc than a stranger

Correct

Got into this on the poli board yesterday with the Alabama frickos that were just caught
Posted by BasilFawlty
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:56 am to
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It depends on the location of the school, distance from the house, and overall safety of the neighborhood

I think you also need to look at which areas of the country embrace neighborhood schools rather than bussing kids from transfer point to transfer point before they reach their school.

I hated riding the bus in elementary and middle school. Would rather ride my bike or walk, which my parents were fine with. Of course my dumb arse would occasionally ride my bike to school then walk home, so I couldn't go out and ride my bike with everyone else in the neighborhood. Maybe I should have ridden the short bus.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4549 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:10 am to
Indeed. In 3rd grade we were out riding our bikes, playing in the woods, hanging out in the neighborhood. Our parents didn’t know where we were. Home at dark. Now the streets are interstate busy and so much traffic and people. Re crime, I think we just know about it faster bc of the internet. Especially if someone finds a noose.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12692 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:12 am to
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The world is probably more safe. With all the cameras on phones, businesses, ring cameras, cell phone cameras, traffic cameras, cell phone tower pings, etc... I think it would be pretty difficult to randomly abduct a child on the street, throw it in a van, drive off, and not get caught.


This is correct.

But the world is not “More Safe”.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
45886 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:14 am to
They still do it out here in Cali. Of course, Cali isn't a shite hole like Louisiana, so that may have something to do with it.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4549 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:15 am to
This. All schools I attended were in walking distance. Now, kids are picked up bf the sun rises and are hauled across town. Rather then school choice, all public schools need to be invested in and and decent. Then kids could stay near their schools.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58305 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:16 am to
Back in the day when everybody had 5+ kids they were more expendable


Nowadays people marry 35 year olds and have to pay a bunch of ivf doctors to have one sickly test tube kid
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3594 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:18 am to
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Did it feel like there was SOME "honor amongst thieves" where they just didn't mess with kids and stuff then


No, sickos have always been around. Printing the news was costly and slow not every story got a headline and many stories never made the news.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:20 am to
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I blame the true crime wave of podcasts/shows, the increasing surveillance state (everyone has cameras, cell phones, etc), and the internet.


This is the one.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:25 am to
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Of course my dumb arse would occasionally ride my bike to school then walk home,
100% drove to highschool one day and forgot I drove that day and took the streetcar home. My parents were rightfully flabbergasted
Posted by Skenes
Member since Mar 2025
402 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:37 am to
Issue where I live is no sidewalks, so kids are walking on the road or riding bikes. With people unable to put their cell phone down while driving it's dangerous. At least in the 90's and 00's people were only changing the radio station or putting in a new CD.
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6851 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:37 am to
How many people in your neighborhood do you know? shite, how many of the people on your street do you know? We knew everyone. My mom could jump on the Mom Line and found out my location within minutes. Today, I know the people two down from my house in each direction (corner). That's it.

I also know that there are three pedos that live within walking distance of our neighborhood park and the nearby elementary and high schools.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9580 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:38 am to
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
18937 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:44 am to
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The world is probably more safe. With all the cameras on phones, businesses, ring cameras, cell phone cameras, traffic cameras, cell phone tower pings, etc...

This just means it’s less safe for criminals to get away with the crime, but parents need to watch out for their kids because there are still a lot of evil people out there, child traffickers come to mind, but many pedophiles walking the streets.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 10:01 am
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
Land of the Rice n Son
Member since Oct 2017
2651 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:45 am to
When I was a kid I walked to school every single day, regardless of weather, uphill, both ways, with popcorn boxes inside my shoes to cover the holes.
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