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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:18 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:18 pm to SirWinston
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I just got a bummer of a thought about the Taliban turning over all that military equipment we left in Afghanistan to Russia... it's all useless to the Taliban, who don't know how to use it or more importantly keep any of it working... but would that be the case with Russia?
Man if this were to happen that is going to look great on Biden's record.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed support on May 28 for delisting the Taliban as a prohibited organization in Russia, indicating that Russia will likely do so soon.
Well now isn't that interesting.
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:42 pm to Lima Whiskey
@nearestovich_official_bot
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 5:06 am to VolSquatch
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It’s really weird that y’all keep referring to a prediction by one poster like it’s a legitimate point against other people
I get a kick out of it Vols. Its akin to some fella losing everything in a divorce but he kept the silverware....lol.
Russia has demolished your country but hey they didnt take one city....albeit is now a wasteland.
Other than that Mrs. Lincoln how was the play?
Posted on 5/29/24 at 5:56 am to CitizenK
Wow. Announcement from Sweden's defense minister:
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 5:58 am to trinidadtiger
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Rybar Live: About the prospect of strikes on Crimea with NATO weapons, May 28
Mikhail Zvinchuk, head of the Russian think tank Rybar: «The attack on the bridge is primarily a political act»
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Starlink terminals continue to be sold in #Russia
Despite assurances from marketplaces that the terminals are not available for ordering and the Russian authorities' ban on using the systems, some sellers are putting the terminals up for sale under a different brand so that they will not be removed from the trading floor.
Only on the Russian marketplace "Ozon" managed to find 12 #Starlink terminals at a price of $1600.
Elon Musk's systems are in high demand by the Russian military, which is increasingly using them in combat operations in #Ukraine.
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Ukrainian-Russian war. Day 826:
Situation on Velikonovoselkovskaya front: During the last hours #RussianArmy managed to secure the southern and central parts of Staromaiorske. #UkrainianArmy retreat from the remaining part of the locality under its control and troops are located now in the warehouses north of it.
Ukrainian-Russian war. Day 826:
Situation on northeastern front: From Chuhuiv axis #RussianArmy managed to capture the Volchansky agregatny zavod factory inside the town of Vovchansk.
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Several Russian airstrikes on Vovchansk overnight, locations of strikes confirm Ukraine still holds territory north of the river especially in the city centre.
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Only 4 out of 18 countries have fulfilled their financial obligations under the Czech initiative to supply ammunition to Ukraine, Czechia Defense Ministry head Jana Cernochová has said
Money to buy ammunition came from Canada, Denmark, the Netherlands and Portugal.
"The funds are coming to us gradually. We cannot buy ammunition in debt. If some countries have signed a memorandum but have not yet sent funds, we cannot continue acquisitions."
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Sweden will transfer an ASC 890 radar reconnaissance and control aircraft along with their RB 99 (AIM-120B) air to air missiles with a range of 70km in a $1.3bn aid package.
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The owner of AliExpress has stopped delivery of orders to Russia
This is reported by the Russian media.
Chinese Alibaba has tightened conditions for Russian business - the company has stopped accepting rubles and does not allow to complete the delivery in the Russia. These restrictions may affect a large number of Russian suppliers.
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Prisoner exchanges between Moscow and Kyiv have been suspended for several months, Russian ombudsman Tatyana Moskalkova said.
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French President Emmanuel Macron has announced a state of war with Russia, urging Ukraine to launch strikes on Russian territory and deploying French military advisers to assist Ukraine.
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No consumption limits for the regions are forecasted today, Ukrenerho says.
It is also reported that a UAV attacked a power facility in the Rivne region last night
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Rybar Live: Special military operation, May 27-28
Mikhail Zvinchuk, head of the Russian think tank Rybar: «On Vremievka outpost successes. Our troops continue fighting in Staromayorskoye and Urozhaynoye, moving forward. In some areas the advance for two days was up to 800 meters»
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Poland has allowed Ukraine to use the weapons it supplies to strike russia, reports Deputy Minister of National Defense of Poland Cezary Tomczyk.
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Ukraine has made some limited, but noteworthy counterattacks just north of Lyptsi that have successfully pushed back Russian forces. This is likely the result of additional elite reserves being brought to the front line in this sector. Russians claim to now be conducting an “active defense” in this area. This is the same term that Ukraine used when it was slowly ceding ground to Russians this spring.
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:02 am to StormyMcMan
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INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 29 May 2024
Last week, Russian media reported that the annual Russian International Army Games will not take place in 2024, although the Russian Ministry of Defence has not commented officially. The event was also cancelled in 2023.
First staged in 2015, the International Army Games is an annual event organised by the Russian MOD that involves a number of countries competing in military events over two weeks. The last International Army Games in 2022 had 6,000 participants from 37 countries.
Russia has likely called-off the Games to avoid criticism of the event as a trivial activity in wartime, diverting military effort away from the war in Ukraine, and to avoid likely reduced participation from other countries.
Particularly known for the Tank Biathlon event, there is also a realistic possibility that, due to losses in Ukraine, the Russian MOD is concerned a shortage of skilled military personnel and equipment would risk Russia's consistent domination of the competition.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 29 May 2024
Last week, Russian media reported that the annual Russian International Army Games will not take place in 2024, although the Russian Ministry of Defence has not commented officially. The event was also cancelled in 2023.
First staged in 2015, the International Army Games is an annual event organised by the Russian MOD that involves a number of countries competing in military events over two weeks. The last International Army Games in 2022 had 6,000 participants from 37 countries.
Russia has likely called-off the Games to avoid criticism of the event as a trivial activity in wartime, diverting military effort away from the war in Ukraine, and to avoid likely reduced participation from other countries.
Particularly known for the Tank Biathlon event, there is also a realistic possibility that, due to losses in Ukraine, the Russian MOD is concerned a shortage of skilled military personnel and equipment would risk Russia's consistent domination of the competition.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:23 am to GOP_Tiger
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Winston, do you lie about women you date and then get surprised when they dump you?
He dates women?
Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:57 am to VolSquatch
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But attributing it to others who share a somewhat similar worldview is retarded at best and outright dishonest at worst.
There are three or so that gang together making bold predictions that sound more like cheerleading than astute observations.
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That was hardly jumping you
It made me cry!!!
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:16 am to SirWinston
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killing hundreds of thousands of Christian lads in the process.
why the frick do you keep saying this?
russians are not christians. look at the stats
as far as forever war, fine but needs to be us only sending older equipment, nothing new and no cash and none of our troops
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:17 am to VolSquatch
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But attributing it to others who share a somewhat similar worldview is retarded at best and outright dishonest at worst.
Hopefully, you'll point this out when the other side does this, as has happened countless times in the 2.25 years this thread has been active.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:30 am to doubleb
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There are three or so that gang together making bold predictions that sound more like cheerleading than astute observations.
Sometimes it does. Sometimes I think they are just fricking with the pro-Ukraine people.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:35 am to Chromdome35
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Hopefully, you'll point this out when the other side does this, as has happened countless times in the 2.25 years this thread has been active.
Oh for sure, its rampant in this thread from both sides of the argument. Thats why I try to ask leading questions to get people to directly answer if they support X or Y thing rather than just assuming they do. Or I take stated positions to their natural logical conclusions. Usually we stick to more broad-scale topics.
The Kharkiv thing is extremely specific, and only one person was even saying it. Just seems weird to hyper-fixate on that, but its a free country for those of us who actually live in the US in this thread.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:40 am to VolSquatch
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Sometimes it does. Sometimes I think they are just fricking with the pro-Ukraine people.
Yes, so why are you surprised people throw it back in their faces?
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:41 am to lsu777
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only sending older equipment
If this conflict is so important to US interests that we HAVE to help them, I disagree with this. Send them the good shite and end it. I don't think it is remotely important, but I'll do a hypothetical here.
What I would do is publicly commit to them long term, make LARGE deliveries of sophisticated weapons, then force these two petulant children we call countries to the table to negotiate. That way Ukraine will have some real leverage.
If Russia doesn't negotiate in good faith, we give Ukraine the weapons to end them.
If Ukraine doesn't negotiate in good faith, we cut off the aid nozzle. And Ukraine is lucky to get that much after trying to goad the west into WW3 with the whole missile in Poland incident.
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:42 am to doubleb
I'm not surprised, I think its weird and either dumb or dishonest depending on where its coming from 
Posted on 5/29/24 at 9:15 am to VolSquatch
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If this conflict is so important to US interests that we HAVE to help them, I disagree with this. Send them the good shite and end it. I don't think it is remotely important, but I'll do a hypothetical here.
our old stuff is good enough to end it if we send the right things
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What I would do is publicly commit to them long term, make LARGE deliveries of sophisticated weapon, then force these two petulant children we call countries to the table to negotiate. That way Ukraine will have some real leverage.
i actually 100% agree
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f Russia doesn't negotiate in good faith, we give Ukraine the weapons to end them.
If Ukraine doesn't negotiate in good faith, we cut off the aid nozzle. And Ukraine is lucky to get that much after trying to goad the west into WW3 with the whole missile in Poland incident.
actually agree 100% with both of these
i actualyl dont give a frick that a bunch of ukrainians are dying to defend their homeland. I care about american soldiers almost exclusively
so that part doesnt bother me, neither does russian soldiers dying
and i find it laughable people try to claim as christians i should care
like the russians or ukrainians are more important than those dying in africa everyday or the middle east every day or starving in NK.
their is evil in the world and nothing i can do about it. I would love freedom for every country and peace across the globe but i cant make that happen.
the ones dying in this conflict are no more important to me than any of the others dying in conflicts around the globe daily and way way way less important than any american dying.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 9:54 am to lsu777
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and i find it laughable people try to claim as christians i should care
like the russians or ukrainians are more important than those dying in africa everyday or the middle east every day or starving in NK.
their is evil in the world and nothing i can do about it. I would love freedom for every country and peace across the globe but i cant make that happen.
the ones dying in this conflict are no more important to me than any of the others dying in conflicts around the globe daily and way way way less important than any american dying.
The Christianity point is an odd one, because there is a lot we could be doing with the resources we are using on Ukraine for our own people. We know we have sent them money, but its almost assuredly more than what we are reported because of the way the DoD budget works, and also using our intel apparatus to assist them does cost money as well.
What could we do for homelesses with those dollars? What about the border? Our veterans?
Even with the old equipment we could give them loans to buy it from us at a great price instead of just giving it to them, and then use that money on things that will actually make American lives better.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:37 am to AU86
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I just got a bummer of a thought about the Taliban turning over all that military equipment we left in Afghanistan to Russia... it's all useless to the Taliban, who don't know how to use it or more importantly keep any of it working... but would that be the case with Russia?
Man if this were to happen that is going to look great on Biden's record.
I won't excuse biden for going through with the withdrawal and doing a shite job of it, but Trump is who put it in motion, and revived the Taliban in the process.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:12 am to VolSquatch
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What could we do for homelesses with those dollars? What about the border? Our veterans?
Veterans... we have no fricking excuse for failing them and it is a disgrace.
The border... if we'd stop using it as a political football and seriously pass immigration reform... but we'll keep on using it as a political football...
The homeless... our economic system can't tolerate full employment, right now the fed is trying to cool the economy (hiring) to take inflation (which seems more rooted in corporations taking advantage of things to boost their profits to record highs). So some people have to be unemployed for the system to function, and laborers on the bottom have to be paid as little as businesses can get away with for the system to function... and it follows that we will create a class of people who are like emergency excess labor-in-waiting to point to to keep labor in line based on "do you want to trade places with those people? They'd kill to have your job and you can go have nothing." Homelessness, poverty, hunger... all man-made systemic political social problems... if you want to solve homelessness just build excess housing and let them move into it for free. But then you're screwing the real estate market, which people will not stand for...
The problem is US, not the dollars. I don't like Elon Musk one bit but he was right on the money when that guy said "give me however many billions and I could end poverty and hunger" and he said "Okay, I will... if you can tell me exactly how you would do that and how it would it actually work." And there was no response, because every society has a group of people they have tacitly decided are just who is fricked in the society. We'd take the money and pay a lot of people to work on the homeless problem, which would not solve the homeless problem. If we don't want homeless people, who need free housing that we don't care if people do drugs in and stay drunk all the time and do insane shite like set the buildings on fire because of mental illness. We won't do that... there are things to help functional people who find themselves homeless due to strange circumstances... the terminal homeless have problems, usually called crack, meth and heroin.
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