GOP_Tiger

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We really should target Myles Turner in FA if we can somehow get him

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One of the bigger "what ifs" is what would have happened if the Pacers had agreed when Griff offered them the #4 pick in 2019 for Turner.

I think it would have been good for both franchises.

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You don’t think other places or ATMs have fees?

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It's good to get a bank account that refunds foreign ATM fees. But yeah, ATM fees are much lower than what's lost in currency exchange. You need to honestly look at the spread in the exchange rates that Chase is giving you.

Just to give you an idea of the scale that we're talking about, the Dominican Republic alone has over 400 all-inclusive options.

Check to see if your credit card has foreign transaction fees. Most of the better cards do not, but you should check.

Griff hired SVG. When that failed, Griff was told to accept other input into the hiring process, and the hiring of Willie was more of a group project.

The sad thing is that SVG largely failed because of the COVID season and because he was a hard-arse and BI hated that. But SVG was a very good coach for Zion, and whatever else you want to say about him, Zion has the raw basketball talent to lead a contending team, and BI does not. Willie is a "player's coach," and that would be OK if we had someone on the team like Draymond Green who would be the bad cop, but we don't. There's no accountability, and there won't be.

Sounds like they want someone underneath him like Bryson Graham.

In other words, they want him to have the final call on drafting and trading, and they want him to manage Zion, but they want Dumars to find someone like Bryson to actually run the operations.

The unknown is whether we are heading for a full rebuild or whether we are going to try to quickly try to contend. And that's obviously going to depend on the draft. The future of the franchise is obviously very different depending on whether we are picking at #1 or #6.

If we are getting #1, then we can contend quickly. We either keep Zion to pair him with Flagg, or we try to trade Zion for elite talent. If we get #6, then we might trade Zion for a bunch of picks and do the slow rebuild, and maybe we trade Herb and/or TMIII and tank.

If we're going to tank next season and Zion is gone, then I think that Willie is a quality developmental coach for a young roster, and I have no problem whatsoever with keeping him.

But if we are keeping Zion, or if we're going to try to be good, then Willie needs to go. Zion needs a coach who will get in his face. SVG wasn't a bad coach for Zion (SVG was just bad for BI).

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He was tasked with building a team around Zion and Ingram in a small market with a cheap owner.

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This. The whole dialogue around "he should have been tougher with Zion" is so idiotic. Have y'all completely forgotten how most of the board wanted him fired three years ago for supposedly damaging our relationship with Zion? Have y'all forgotten the stupid piano story?

Stars in small markets have so much power precisely because they know that the front office and coaches can't do squat about it.

It's not Griff's fault that Zion has wanted to eat more than he's wanted to become an MVP.

It's also not Griff's fault that New Orleans is a small market that has never paid the tax. Griff gambled on this season, betting that the addition of Murray would unlock Zion, we could have a top-4 team in the West at the deadline, and he'd be able to move BI for a center who would enable us to contend.

When you are in a small market that doesn't pay tax, you sometimes have to gamble. Griff lost that bet this season, but the logic was there. The logic still makes sense. And I would rather be a fan of a team that at least takes big swings than a team like Indiana that's fine with always being a low seed in the playoffs.

Sure, Griff made some bad calls with Jaxson Hayes, Steven Adams, Devontae Graham, Eric Bledsoe, and Kira Lewis. He made up for those with steals like Herb Jones and Trey Murphy, and by consistently finding guys like Jose and Naji off the scrap heap and turning them into quality contributors

I'm not opposed to firing him today. The fans need to see change to have a reason to believe. But we didn't lose because of Griff anymore than it was Dell Demps's fault that Boogie got hurt. It's just how the league works.

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Whats the point in using this qualifier? They still be white? And living and playing in the US

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The point is that elite white American athletes are choosing other sports to play. It's not good for the country if white kids don't play basketball and black kids don't play baseball.

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if we get Flagg then trade him

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If we get Flagg, then we are going to trade CJ and future picks and try to contend soon. We would pair Zion and Flagg.