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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:21 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:21 pm to Jim Rockford
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we sanctioned them for invading China
Does that situation sound familiar?
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they thought, probably correctly, that we wouldn't stand by as they rampaged through the Southwest Pacific.
I don't necessarily disagree that we would have gotten involved eventually either way, but the simple fact is Pearl Harbor did happen and we did get involved immediately after. Any alternate history scenarios are just for entertainment unless we have actual documentation.
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They weren't our allies at the time
We had pretty good relations with the UK and France even if we weren't officially allies. Both were top 4-5 trading partners throughout the early 20th century, with Britain only dipping below 2nd place behind Canada when they were at war.
WW1 was seen mostly as a European matter but we still were heavily involved in helping Britain and France even before we officially entered it ourselves (and we historically know now that there weren't really "good" and "bad" sides in that war like there were in WW2, just the side we happened to be on).
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:22 pm to doubleb
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Spending money as promised to grind down our enemies is a much better use.
I just fundamentally disagree. Unless you're finishing the job and installing a new government, all you're going to do is make a nuclear power more unstable than it already is.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:25 pm to Jim Rockford
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People who say we should spend the money at home generally are against social spending anyway.
I am against a lot of social spending, but if you give me a pile of federal funds and tell me how to spend it I'll put it on social services over countries that aren't strategically or economically that important to the US every. single. time.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:26 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:32 pm to GOP_Tiger
If you want the translation from DC-ese into regular language, what this means is that:
"The policy is getting changed, but everyone has to pass the memos around another time, and then the exact details of the new policy need to be worked out, so expect something official in about two weeks."
"The policy is getting changed, but everyone has to pass the memos around another time, and then the exact details of the new policy need to be worked out, so expect something official in about two weeks."
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 5/29/24 at 2:23 pm to VolSquatch
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I am against a lot of social spending, but if you give me a pile of federal funds and tell me how to spend it I'll put it on social services over countries that aren't strategically or economically that important to the US every. single. time.
This first order of business for all US embassies is business for America. The business of America has always been about business and trade. The US just didn't have enough umph domestically to be a rising global power until the late 19th century. The main reason for the Louisiana Purchase was for global trade via controlling the mouth of the Mississippi River. The Mississippi, Missouri and Ohio river systems make internal transportation with global markets the cheapest in the world.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:00 pm to CitizenK
Interesting article from WSJ
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Russia launched plans to sharply raise taxes on high earners and companies to fill state coffers and fund what it sees as a long war in Ukraine.
A government commission on Wednesday approved a Finance Ministry plan to introduce a new progressive income tax as well as raise corporate tax rates. The proposed amendments, which would come into force from next year, are expected to bring an additional 2.6 trillion rubles, or around $29 billion.
The amendments, which represent the biggest overhaul of the Russian tax system in years, are a sign of President Vladimir Putin’s bet on a protracted and costly war and his continuing efforts to align both society and the economy with the military effort.
The hikes are meant to fund soaring government expenditures on a war that has transformed the Russian economy over the past two years. War spending has provided a fillip to economic growth with factories working around the clock to produce artillery shells and tanks, and hiking wages to attract staff.
“Given the runaway spending on the military-industrial complex, the government cannot solely rely on resource exports,” said Erik Meyersson, chief emerging-markets strategist at the Swedish bank SEB.
In raising taxes, the government has to strike a balance between finding new sources of funding for the war and not increasing the financial burden on the majority of Russians.
Russia currently has a flat tax of 13% for most people, with some higher earners paying a 15% rate, a significantly lower tax burden than in the U.S. or Europe. According to the proposed changes, new rates would range from the current 13% for those earning up to the equivalent of $27,000 a year to as high as 22% for those exceeding $560,000. Per capita household income is around $7,100, according to data provider CEIC.
Russia’s military expenditures are already running at over 6% of gross domestic product, approaching levels reached by the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War in the 1980s. Earlier this month, Putin appointed a macroeconomist, Andrei Belousov, as minister of defense, highlighting the extent to which the war has become central to Russia’s economic paradigm.
Pumping that money into the war, though, has put pressure on government finances. The federal budget gap rose to $16.6 billion in the first four months of this year, nearly hitting the government’s deficit projection for the full year.
Moscow has plugged the hole by tapping into its rainy-day fund, mostly generated from oil-sales revenue, and issuing more debt. The value of the fund has fallen to $139 billion compared with around $180 billion before the war.
Economists say that Russia can continue to fund the war for now as oil prices remain high and Moscow has found ways to skirt Western sanctions. But the tax amendments are an acknowledgment that the war effort could become unsustainable the longer the conflict drags on.
Mindful of potential social unrest, the Kremlin has sought to shield the domestic population from the effects of the war by implementing various subsidies and social programs since the start of its invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.
Soldiers fighting in Ukraine as well as poorer families with children would get exceptions to the tax increase, the finance ministry said. In all, the tax changes would affect around two million people out of Russia’s 64 million working population, the ministry said.
For businesses, the government plans to raise corporation tax to 25% from 20% now. The proposed tax amendments also include a hike in taxes for fertilizer and iron-ore producers. After the war began, Russia introduced a windfall tax on excess company profits.
“This is definitely a tax-hike related to the war,” said Alexandra Prokopenko, a fellow at the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center think tank and a former employee of Russia’s central bank. “Business would be those who will pay for this war feast.”
The war has aggravated economic imbalances and has eroded Russia’s longer term growth potential. Stubbornly high inflation, at nearly 8% in April, is around twice the central bank’s target. The state has been running budget deficits while labor shortages have become a chronic problem, with businesses competing for workers with military producers. Sanctions, meanwhile, have restricted Russia’s access to imported goods and raised the cost of getting them.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:16 pm to VolSquatch
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I just fundamentally disagree. Unless you're finishing the job and installing a new government, all you're going to do is make a nuclear power more unstable than it already is.
More unstable and weaker is preferable to a nuclear power (and enemy) that is more dominant and more emboldened.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:25 pm to AGGIES
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more dominant
Even if they took over the entirety of Ukraine they aren't moving up from their current station.
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more emboldened.
To do what? You think they want the smoke with NATO after this?
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:35 pm to Lee B
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seriously pass immigration reform
All of the laws ever needed are already on the books. They are just being intentionally ignored by the White House Resident and the Marxist hens that pull his strings.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:40 pm to VolSquatch
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To do what? You think they want the smoke with NATO after this?
Sounds like Neville Chamberlain…
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:41 pm to VolSquatch
In the Victorian Era, there were poor farms where those who could not support themselves lived in a supervised communal arrangement where everyone had to work in whatever way they could.
NYC's Mayor Koch back in his day suggested an urban version of that was vilified as a result.
NYC's Mayor Koch back in his day suggested an urban version of that was vilified as a result.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:53 pm to AGGIES
Tell me what they would be emboldened to do. Maybe Moldova, I guess.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:57 pm to VolSquatch
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I am against a lot of social spending, but if you give me a pile of federal funds and tell me how to spend it I'll put it on social services over countries that aren't strategically or economically that important to the US every. single. time.
The welfare queens, the lobbyists, the govt. leeches and all those in the beltway love people like yourself.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 4:05 pm to VolSquatch
Who knows what they are thinking about next.
What is this war about? It’s not about Nazis. It’s about stealing land and natural resources and daring anyone to stop them. Russia clearly doesn’t recognize borders, and has no limits or boundaries to their objectives.
Can’t expect a honest answer from them. They lied through their teeth at the UN and said they weren’t going to invade.
What is this war about? It’s not about Nazis. It’s about stealing land and natural resources and daring anyone to stop them. Russia clearly doesn’t recognize borders, and has no limits or boundaries to their objectives.
Can’t expect a honest answer from them. They lied through their teeth at the UN and said they weren’t going to invade.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 4:18 pm to VolSquatch
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Tell me what they would be emboldened to do. Maybe Moldova, I guess
Right now they are threatening the Baltic States and Finland. They are involved eith our enemies in the Middle East and are trying to cause crap in Africa.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 4:36 pm to doubleb
Russia can't take on NATO but they're not intending to. They're trying to split up NATO and take on the individual countries piecemeal. Russia, even as corrupt and inept as it is, can take on the Baltics countries rather easily. After that they expect countries like Sweden and Finland to fall into line and acknowledge the new sheriff in town.
Putin expects to outlast the West's resolve. The high casualties are a feature, not a bug. He's saying "I'm willing to kill hundreds of thousands of my own citizens and destroy my economy to get what I want. Are you?"
Putin expects to outlast the West's resolve. The high casualties are a feature, not a bug. He's saying "I'm willing to kill hundreds of thousands of my own citizens and destroy my economy to get what I want. Are you?"
Posted on 5/29/24 at 4:47 pm to Jim Rockford
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Putin expects to outlast the West's resolve.
Usually works, ask the Taliban.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 5:00 pm to Jim Rockford
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The high casualties are a feature, not a bug. He's saying "I'm willing to kill hundreds of thousands of my own citizens and destroy my economy to get what I want. Are you?"
Especially when it allows him to empty the jails and throw Muslims into the meat grinder.
"Quantity has a quality all it's own" - Stalin; but he was plagiarizing from Napoleon.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 5:06 pm to Philzilla
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Putin expects to outlast the West's resolve.
Usually works, ask the Taliban
TBF the Tailban also outlasted the USSRs resolve as well
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