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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:13 pm to
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Would Israel have similar restrictions on weapons we gave them if they were in the same situation Ukraine is in?

The answer is a clear “no”, because Israel is actually important to US interests


Israel struck back by firing missiles directly into Iran. Israel blows up some shite belonging to Iran in Syria every other day... and got Russia to shrug and look away until probably recently...

Iran doesn't have nukes, though... and that seems to be a big part of the calculus..

But I also think we'll see a shift in US direct involvement in that region... we're going to set up a Security agreement between Jordan (who are basically on our payroll as a country at this point), Egypt, Saudi Arabia and a couple of others with Israel (Iran is now the common enemy that trumps all)... force formal statehood upon Palestine after Hamas is disposed of, and probably Hezbollah, too... and turn things over to Turkey to take care of beyond that...
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:17 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3975 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:18 pm to
I just got a bummer of a thought about the Taliban turning over all that military equipment we left in Afghanistan to Russia... it's all useless to the Taliban, who don't know how to use it or more importantly keep any of it working... but would that be the case with Russia? I'm assuming other than trucks most of it was rendered inoperable before we left in one way or another...
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3975 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:20 pm to
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well, even the USA had to have a draft in WWI and WWII, right?
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:35 pm to
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I just got a bummer of a thought about the Taliban turning over all that military equipment we left in Afghanistan to Russia... it's all useless to the Taliban, who don't know how to use it or more importantly keep any of it working... but would that be the case with Russia? I'm assuming other than trucks most of it was rendered inoperable before we left in one way or another...


Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:38 pm to
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Winston, I'm curious if you do this in real life? Do you lie about your coworkers and then get surprised when you don't get promoted? Do you lie about women you date and then get surprised when they dump you?


I called you a 2-time Biden voter. Are you saying that because technically you've only voted for hin once so far that I'm a "liar"? Or are you not voting for him after all?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 7:05 pm to
2% of those issued summons appear voluntarily.



Recent Ukrainian cartoon

The man on the left has been beaten by the conscription officer. The corpse is either a reference to service as a death sentence, or a reference to the people who have died in TCC offices.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27025 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 7:33 pm to
Rheinmetall Air Defence: Skynex truck-mounted engaging drone swarm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb5_F4_Eod8
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8464 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 7:38 pm to
The Slaves to Ukraine have been telling us personnel wasn’t an issue…. But it is NBC. Not sure who I trust less
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16235 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:17 pm to
Yet you don't believe the MSM. What a fix you have put yourself into!
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:31 pm to
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Lima Whiskey

Do you have a cartoon explaining why Kharkiv hasn't fallen yet?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:36 pm to
The Russians didn't deploy enough men to take the city, so that's not what they're trying to do. It's about stretching the Ukrainian forces, and probably reduce the number of attacks on Belgorod.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8464 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:44 pm to
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Kharkiv hasn't fallen yet?


It’s really weird that y’all keep referring to a prediction by one poster like it’s a legitimate point against other people

If Russia were trying to take Kharkiv there would be more troops near Kharkiv. It does look like the tide in the surrounding villages is swinging Ukraine’s way though.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16235 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:57 pm to
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If Russia were trying to take Kharkiv there would be more troops near Kharkiv. It does look like the tide in the surrounding villages is swinging Ukraine’s way though.


or not have enough equipment to support the men they even used. They walked those very few kilometers.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21073 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:01 pm to
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I called you a 2-time Biden voter. Are you saying that because technically you've only voted for hin once so far that I'm a "liar"? Or are you not voting for him after all?


I have never voted for Biden, or for any Democrat in any federal election. I have told you this twice before, and yet you continue to lie.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42808 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:07 pm to
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It’s really weird that y’all keep referring to a prediction by one poster like it’s a legitimate point against other people


This board is unforgiving. When you make stupid predictions people make you wear it.

Heck you jumped me today for not noticing your quotation marks.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5766 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:09 pm to
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Recent Ukrainian cartoon


Cartoon is from a rashist propaganda web site with ru domain.

LINK



Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:09 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

Russian President Vladimir Putin grossly misrepresented the Ukrainian Constitution and Ukrainian domestic law on May 28 in order to further promote the Kremlin information operation claiming that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is no longer the legitimate president of Ukraine.

Ukrainian Speaker of the Verkhovna Rada Ruslan Stefanchuk directly responded to Putin's deliberate misinterpretation of Ukrainian law and explicitly stated that the Ukrainian Constitution and laws stipulate that Zelensky remain in office until the end of martial law in Ukraine.

Russian allegations about Zelensky's lack of legitimacy are a known Kremlin information operation that Kremlin officials have been promoting extensively in recent weeks, in part targeted at foreign audiences.

The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE)'s Committee on Culture supported a resolution that recognizes Russia's deliberate erasure of Ukrainian culture as an element of Russia's genocidal campaign in occupied Ukraine, consistent with ISW's longstanding assessment that Russia is pursuing a broad occupation strategy premised on eradicating Ukraine's national identity and independence.

Russian authorities are preparing to intensify the deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia throughout Summer 2024, further consolidating another component of Russia's genocidal campaign in Ukraine.

Iran's continued support for Russia's defense industrial base (DIB) and provision of lethal aid to Russia is bolstering Russia's technological output and military capabilities on the battlefield in Ukraine.

The Georgian Parliament overrode Georgian President Salome Zurabishvili's veto of Georgia's Russian-style "foreign agents" law in an 84-to-4 vote on May 28.

A limited segment of the Russian ultranationalist information space has resumed its standard public criticisms of the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and warned that new Defense Minister Andrei Belousov may not solve certain systemic issues within the Russian MoD and military.

Portugal and Belgium both signed long-term bilateral security agreements with Ukraine on May 28.

Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed support on May 28 for delisting the Taliban as a prohibited organization in Russia, indicating that Russia will likely do so soon.

Ukrainian forces recently made confirmed advances near Lyptsi, and Russian forces recently made confirmed advances near Avdiivka and the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area.

The Russian military is reportedly intensifying efforts to recruit citizens from Central African countries to fight in Ukraine.


Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8464 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:54 pm to
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When you make stupid predictions people make you wear it.


But attributing it to others who share a somewhat similar worldview is retarded at best and outright dishonest at worst.

quote:

Heck you jumped me today for not noticing your quotation marks.


That was hardly jumping you
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