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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted by Lee B on 7/8/26 at 8:19 am to VolSquatch
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If you can't see a difference between Trump's wild swings on issues and merely listening to someone and adjusting based on information I don't know what to tell you. The latter should be celebrated, the former should not.
I agree, very much. Trump's opinion is simply "what the last person who talked to him and flattered him beforehand told him." That's how Netanyahu got him to attack Iran... twice. Every other US President passed on the same pitch since the late 90s, in Trump's first term it was headed off by advisors a couple of times... he doesn't surround himself with anybody who knows more (or will argue with him) anymore, so here we are...
And that doesn't change the fact that he hates being on the losing side of anything. Which is why he's soured on Netanyahu and Israel for getting him into a mess that is much more complicated to extricate himself from than he was led to believe.
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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted by Lee B on 7/7/26 at 7:56 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Ukrainian leader says Donald Trump has changed his mind about the conflict.
Trump can't stand to be on the losing side of anything, Zelensky knows full well Trump prefers that Putin win and has tried to put his thumb on the scale, but if that's not possible, he will go with whoever is winning.
We have always been at war with Eastasia. We have never been at war with Euroasia, who are our allies.
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don’t see how anyone who observed the outcome in Iran could come to any other conclusion.
What is the "outcome" observed in Iran, exactly?
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I’m not pro-Russia. I am anti-war. And if it weren’t for the west funding Ukraine this war would have been over four years ago and a million people would still be alive.
So you're for people being subjugated.
re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted by Lee B on 7/4/26 at 9:57 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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From the Darth Putin site. The best read on the Russian mindset yet -
"500 years of the Russian self perception are about to get violently upended."
Fantastic
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Almost a year ago, during Putin’s meeting with US President Donald Trump in Alaska, they reportedly agreed to force Ukraine to hand over Donetsk.
We're now part of the axis of evil
re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted by Lee B on 7/3/26 at 4:43 pm to VolSquatch
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When “who” is spinning this crap? The Trump administration?
I would imagine it's Ukraine making shite up, something they are quite fond of (though not as fond of it as Russia)
Ukraine is telling the Trump administration that Russia is about to invade Poland... and the Trump administration believes it and is warning Poland?
re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted by Lee B on 7/3/26 at 3:45 pm to VolSquatch
When “who” is spinning this crap? The Trump administration?
re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted by Lee B on 7/3/26 at 12:52 pm to Coeur du Tigre
The Indpendent: Russia plotting attack on Poland to test Nato’s resolve, US claims
Vladimir Putin could use an attack on Nato as a bargaining chip for the war in Ukraine, sources told Polish media
The US has warned Warsaw that Russia is planning an armed “provocation” against Poland to test Nato’s resolve, according to reports.
The assault could see Poland’s vital infrastructure targeted by missiles or drones, or even Russian soldiers crossing the border into Nato territory, Washington has said.
Sources close to Polish president Karol Nawrocki told Polish outlet Onet that the aim of Moscow’s possible assault, which could be launched in a matter of months, would be to provoke tensions and pressure Ukraine’s Western allies to suspend their military and financial aid.
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Moscow could hope that Poland would be forced by the US to negotiate rather than responding forcefully and opening fire on Russian or Belarusian soldiers, sources told Onet.
Vladimir Putin would see a scenario in which Russians withdraw (from Poland) as a result of negotiations as a win from Moscow’s perspective, the sources said, with an end to Western support for Ukraine a possible condition it could demand in return for withdrawal from Poland.
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This is Washington - The Trump Administration - saying this is possible...
But Hegseth just told NATO the US will not aid them in an attack.
So there's a chance this is just an attempt (by Trump's administration) to intimidate Poland and NATO out of continuing to support Ukraine...
Vladimir Putin could use an attack on Nato as a bargaining chip for the war in Ukraine, sources told Polish media
The US has warned Warsaw that Russia is planning an armed “provocation” against Poland to test Nato’s resolve, according to reports.
The assault could see Poland’s vital infrastructure targeted by missiles or drones, or even Russian soldiers crossing the border into Nato territory, Washington has said.
Sources close to Polish president Karol Nawrocki told Polish outlet Onet that the aim of Moscow’s possible assault, which could be launched in a matter of months, would be to provoke tensions and pressure Ukraine’s Western allies to suspend their military and financial aid.
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Moscow could hope that Poland would be forced by the US to negotiate rather than responding forcefully and opening fire on Russian or Belarusian soldiers, sources told Onet.
Vladimir Putin would see a scenario in which Russians withdraw (from Poland) as a result of negotiations as a win from Moscow’s perspective, the sources said, with an end to Western support for Ukraine a possible condition it could demand in return for withdrawal from Poland.
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This is Washington - The Trump Administration - saying this is possible...
But Hegseth just told NATO the US will not aid them in an attack.
So there's a chance this is just an attempt (by Trump's administration) to intimidate Poland and NATO out of continuing to support Ukraine...
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2. I have no idea who Seymour Hearst is
*hersh
"don't you tell me to hersh!!!"
re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted by Lee B on 7/3/26 at 10:51 am to VolSquatch
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Big Serge was doxxed, turns out to be...... A normal guy
Using US government internet connections (assuming he's using his phone or personal laptop) to promote foreign interests on US government-paid time.
No biggie... would be fine if someone was doing the same for China...
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it is an overweening nanny state.
any government is an overweening nanny state.
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All of this could have and would have been accomplished without NATO.
But it wasn’t.
With the Russians threatening Western Europe what was the best option at the time?
We didn't care about Western Europe that much... we didn't want more Soviet bodies added to the team and more industries gobbled up by the USSR, giving them more power to threaten US!
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If this is true from 1898:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
Then why did we have to pass a Constitutional amendment in 1924 to make native Americans legal citizens? Were they not subject to the US jurisdiction?
Just a question...
Maybe answer the question rather than downvoting... makes it look like you don't have an answer...
Because the United States Government did not consider Native Americans to be human beings.
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Were they not subject to the US jurisdiction?
They were placed on reservations and not considered citizens of the U.S.
re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted by Lee B on 7/1/26 at 11:26 am to Coeur du Tigre
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From this Ukrainian Air Force data it seems that Russia stopped using the decoy drones last August. Cost saving?
I hope they're not saving them up for a total blitz... I'd be droning the storage areas.
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You can call that “NATO” if you want, but it was the USA that did that.
We've been through this 1,000 times here, but the US set up NATO, and set it up to put the US overwhelmingly in charge and to be much more powerful than everybody else (which is why de Gaulle was always so pissy and uncooperative). We didn't want European nations having wars and creating an opening for the Soviet Union to march forward in the chaos. We didn't want individual European nations, other than the UK and France, to be too strong, militarily.
NATO is good for Europe, and the EU is good for Europe.
Trump effectively pulling the US out of NATO unofficially with Hegseth's announcement just makes Europe more determined to help Ukraine topple Putin before they have to deal with him later.
The nuclear proliferation is the part that bothers me. If you haven't been paying attention, those parliamentary systems can have constant swings and chaos... to borrow a page out of the right's big book or nightmares, what happens if the Muslim Brotherhood takes power in a nuclear country?*
*This nightmarish scenario has to ignore that militant Islamist Pakistan was allowed to go nuclear by Reagan in the early 80s, to guard against the expansion of the Soviet Union from neighboring Afghanistan.
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Putin has decided he wants moer of Ukraine.
If the war ends, so does he... as a lot of military people have said, this either ends with Russia conquering all of Ukraine and then having to immediately attack someone else (highly unlikely), or Putin dying one way or another. Without the excuse of a war effort Russians are at the point where they will be angry at how screwed they are...
and how can an "existential defensive war" against "all of NATO" just be over one day?
re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted by Lee B on 7/1/26 at 9:36 am to Camp Randall
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It’s unreal that a 3 day takeover has drug out this long.
My friends and I used to use "3 hour tour" (a la Gilligan's Island) as a term for something that seemed to last forever/longer than anticipated or was an endless drag... "my dad asked me to help him clean out this storage room and it as a total 3 hour tour..."
I think "Special Military Operation" will replace that...
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FTR NATO was supposed to last for a decade or so.
Well, it had to last as long as the Soviet Union did...and obviously beyond that...
no NATO = more nuclear proliferation... and that's not good
Finland knows all too well what a confrontation with Russia would mean. So, the Finns are preparing..
I thought Latvia, Finland and Estonia had closed their border crossings with Russia years ago?
The Trump administration has said that it is now policy to not send meaningful reinforcements to Europe in case of a military conflict. Most notably, super carriers, carrier aviation, extra fighter jets, aerial refueling, airlift capacity, air defense, and precision munitions.
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