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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:44 am to
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:44 am to
It’s just them trying to make a sandwich out of the shite they were dealt.

I don’t think this was a false flag, nor do I think Russia “let it happen” outside of ignoring our warning because they don’t like to rely on help from the west.

This sort of thing has been happening in Russia for decades.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8186 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:45 am to
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It’s just them trying to make a sandwich out of the shite they were dealt.

I don’t think this was a false flag, nor do I think Russia “let it happen” outside of ignoring our warning because they don’t like to rely on help from the west.

This sort of thing has been happening in Russia for decades.


Agreed, not everything is part of some grand conspiracy.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2957 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:54 am to
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Agreed, not everything is part of some grand conspiracy.


Don't tell the Poli board that.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:11 am to
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Meduza is a respected independent Russian media source, now operating from Latvia


It is operated by a left wing Ukrainian and funded by the same people who run far left Mother Jones.



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This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 10:22 am
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:16 am to
Well this is kinda f'ed

quote:

Graphic Footage has been released showing Russian Security Forces as they Cut the Ear off one of the Terrorists who were Captured in the Bryansk Region of Western Russian this morning before Feeding him his own Ear.

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This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 10:17 am
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:23 am to
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Well this is kinda f'ed


I don't have a problem with it. He's lucky it wasn't his nuts
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:27 am to
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Just as expected, Putin plays the Ukraine card despite the absurdity of the claim Kyiv could be involved. Terror suspects, he says, tried to escape to Ukraine, “where early reports indicate a window had been prepared to cross the international border.”

LINK

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Hilariously, this statement unintentionally implies that Ukraine controls the border to Russia and that Russia can’t defend its own internal border.

LINK

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Russian Security Forces have released Footage showing part of the Interrogation that was conducted against several of the Terrorists that were Arrested this morning in Forrests of the Bryansk Region, with both of them claiming to be Migrants from Tajikistan who were Living in a Hostel on the Northern Side of Moscow and that were Recruited for the Attack on Terrorist-Operated Telegram Channel, which promised to Pay them roughly Half-a-Million Rubles or around $5,000 U.S. Dollars.

LINK
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8186 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:27 am to
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I don't have a problem with it. He's lucky it wasn't his nuts


I'm with you 100% on this. It should have been his nuts.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1947 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:36 am to
that might have been next.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38497 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:44 am to
$5,000 to essentially die or be tortured forever in a shitty Russian prison
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11686 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:52 am to
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Don't tell the Poli board that.


Everything is a conspiracy to fit some narrative they’ve dreamt up. It’s fun to watch but best not to feed them.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11915 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 11:00 am to
Timchenko is a Russian-born Latvian, not Ukrainian.

If you're going to understand what's going on in Russia after their independent media has been repressed, you've got fewer sources - Russian state-backed sources, western media (which you dismiss), ex-patriate media (which you also apparently dismiss), so it's natural you're going to come out with a pro-Russian perspective. Have some balance, mate!
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 11:07 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26928 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 11:05 am to
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It depends what goes boom as to how effective a strike is. A large fire might signify nothing of major importance as to ability to replace or repurpose something like a storage tank.


I suspect that the Ukrainians are smart enough to know which parts of a refinery are the most critical and hardest to replace, but it may not be so easy to target that accurately enough from that kind of range.

Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17613 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 11:20 am to
I can’t wait until MTG starts blathering about Ukrainian terrorists and the theatre attack
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5740 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 11:42 am to
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I suspect that the Ukrainians are smart enough to know which parts of a refinery are the most critical and hardest to replace, but it may not be so easy to target that accurately enough from that kind of range.


They are probably evaluating the results and refining (no pun intended) their tactics. I also think it's likely that they are working on AI assisted targeting.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16137 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 12:43 pm to
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I’m no expert but I assume most of their refineries conveniently should be located in the mid-southern part of Russia though am I right? That is where the Germans attacked to try to control the Russian oilfields.


Azerbaijan was the oil production and refining center for Russia from well before even WWI. Samara region is where most of the refining is today since the 1950's/60's with oil and natural gas coming from Western Siberia.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 12:47 pm to
Same
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45724 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

It’s just them trying to make a sandwich out of the shite they were dealt. I don’t think this was a false flag, nor do I think Russia “let it happen” outside of ignoring our warning because they don’t like to rely on help from the west. This sort of thing has been happening in Russia for decades.


That sandwich is going to cost a lot of lives. Russia will torture the people they arrested until they implicate Ukraine. Russia will then officially declare war on Ukraine and start conscription of anywhere from 100,000-500,000 additional troops. This will all happen in the next 2 weeks while Congress is out of session for Easter. That means no votes on aid, additional sanctions, or anything else related to the situation. It also means that Joe Biden will be busy trying to remember what he is looking for at the White House egg hunt and inviting the Easter bunny to come look at his corvette.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45724 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 1:13 pm to
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Don't tell the Poli board that. Everything is a conspiracy to fit some narrative they’ve dreamt up. It’s fun to watch but best not to feed them.


Speaking of narratives not adding up.


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A car with suspected terrorists was detained 16 km from the border with Belarus ????, not Ukraine ????. - Belarusian news. So, what happened? Putin said the terrorists had been given a “window,” to enter Ukraine?
LINK
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 1:33 pm to
I have just been told over there that Russia by all accounts has tried to minimize civilian casualties.



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