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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:53 pm to
Belarus (with Kremlin support) have been using migrants to destabilize European politics at least since last year.

LINK
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:55 pm to
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Belarus (with Kremlin support) have been using migrants to destabilize European politics at least since last year.


Yet people like you say millions of people flooding into the EU from the middle east isn't a problem.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:55 pm to
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A brief review of the right wing messaging on the PoliBoard shows that the conservative wing of American politics is all in on supporting Russia, to the point that the was an entire thread over the weekend where posters wrote how and why they would prefer Putin as the ruler of America.




as usual with you, you go completely overboard. 90%+ of conservatives dont support russia, they just dont support ukraine and think this is a european problem.


and nobody is goign to make that a wedge issue. its a loser for teh GOP to do that, only a retard would think that(fits your profile)
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:57 pm to
It's easy to jump to the conclusion that it's kneejerk anti-Bidenism and it's partly that, but Putin fanboyism goes back considerably before the last election. A non-trivial number of Americans find authoritarianism appealing. Russia identified and cultivated that streak.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:58 pm to
It's definitely a problem! It's an intentional problem caused by Russia and has been via Syria, Belarus (who has been flying foreign nationals in specifically to release over the Polish border) and now with Ukraine, though thankfully the net migration flow is back into Ukraine at this point.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:59 pm to
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Belarus (with Kremlin support) have been using migrants to destabilize European politics at least since last year.


Pretty sure that’s why Poland acted fast to build their own border wall, but they actually mean it and will enforce.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:01 pm to
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as usual with you, you go completely overboard. 90%+ of conservatives dont support russia, they just dont support ukraine and think this is a european problem.


and nobody is goign to make that a wedge issue. its a loser for teh GOP to do that, only a retard would think that(fits your profile)

Fair enough. I think it will be used as a wedge issue, but perhaps it will turn out to not be. I certainly don't have a crystal ball. I was following up on the prior comment that the economic stress of the war will be used to punish incumbents in coming elections. I think that there will be even more than that based upon the chatter that is already happening. Please don't be offended as that wasn't my intent.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:02 pm to
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It's definitely a problem! It's an intentional problem caused by Russia and has been via Syria

Yeah the EU migrant flood is because Russia was in Syria
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Belarus (who has been flying foreign nationals in specifically to release over the Polish border) and now with Ukraine, though thankfully the net migration flow is back into Ukraine at this point.

So now you're all about borders?

It's hilarious to watch you people waffle back and forth over whether or not a country deserves to have borders or not

There's literally no current problem on Earth that you won't blame on the Russians. Of course, you still believe whole heartedly that Trump was/is a Russian spy, so your opinions aren't worth much.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11915 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:06 pm to
Russia propped up the Assad regime which would've fallen without it. And there are plenty of problems that the Russians aren't responsible for. Ok, maybe not plenty, but some at least.

Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5752 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:06 pm to
The report of Snake island being struck appear to be false. Instead, it appears that a second drilling platform was hit. One of the platforms is on fire and shows up on the NASA Fire map (FIRMS) the red dot in the middle of the sea. From the map you can see that the platform is much closer to Ukraine and Snake Island than the occupied Crimea.

FIRMS


Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:08 pm to
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Russia propped up the Assad regime which would've fallen without it. And there are plenty of problems that the Russians aren't responsible for. Ok, maybe not plenty, but some at least

Yeah, but let's just completely ignore the NATO/US/EU involvement that not only kicked the entire thing off but exacerbated it at every turn, including funding the "moderate rebels" that turned out to be ISIS.

You're a giant pair of fricking clown shoes, dude.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11915 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:10 pm to
This is a Russia thread, baw. Post some pro-Putin hot takes or be gone.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139062 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:12 pm to
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This is a Russia thread, baw. Post some pro-Putin hot takes or be gone.

Yeah, I'd try to switch gears if I were you too, clown.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105508 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:29 pm to
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The report of Snake island being struck appear to be false. Instead, it appears that a second drilling platform was hit. One of the platforms is on fire and shows up on the NASA Fire map (FIRMS) the red dot in the middle of the sea. From the map you can see that the platform is much closer to Ukraine and Snake Island than the occupied Crimea.



Russia and its apologists in the west and on this board will whine about escalation, but Russia has been waging economic warfare on Ukraine from the beginning. And in point of fact this is Ukrainian territory in the first place.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:39 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 1:10 am
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10828 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:44 pm to
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brief review of the right wing messaging on the PoliBoard shows that the conservative wing of American politics is all in on supporting Russia, to the point that the was an entire thread over the weekend where posters wrote how and why they would prefer Putin as the ruler of America.


Pretty weak inference.

Do you have a link to this weekend long thread? Searching for Putin in subject or “ruler of America” in subject and post doesn’t bring up anything obvious, but subject is probably different.

Closest I could find on quick look was a negative Biden thread where sta4ever 1st brings up them probably wanting Putin doesn’t even remotely have this “ruler of America” view or even pro Putin. Responses to this thread involving Putin started by posters trying to push hate of Biden as equating to loving Putin and Russia are much more about Biden and also trolling those 2 like “I would prefer Satan himself over what we have now.” Or “ Hell, we know for a fact you believed putin was the president from 2016 to 2020”.

Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5123 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:45 pm to
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So who is winning, since the media has moved on?


I thin Tboy and CitK are up 2-1 over Lima and SClib
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8671 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:50 pm to
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Just going to leave this here with no comment: Prepare to fight and beat Russia in a Third World War, Britain's top general warns: New UK Army commander tells troops to brace for European land war in tub-thumping message as tyrant Putin menaces ex-Soviet states



None of that is particularly surprising or unusual rhetoric from a senior officer. "Prepare to fight and beat X" is used 1,000,000 times every single day across the military. I would hope the British military is training to annihilate the Russian military; that's kind of the whole point.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61748 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:52 pm to
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dallastigers


I wonder how many times in this thread you have showed up to white knight for the politard board.
Are you worried or something that some of you may get mis-labeled? LOL
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30712 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 3:59 pm to
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It is in our interest to continue to 1) Be the world power and 2)Have open and uninterrupted access to all (high value) European markets, among many other benefits.


We don't just pay for our seat at the table, we pay to own the table. Some understandably don't see this level of control worth the price but others do, I am with the others.
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