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Kobe chopper's flight pattern was just weird and all over the place
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:35 am
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:35 am
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TMZ:
4:30 PM PT -- L.A. weather was extremely foggy Sunday morning, and law enforcement sources tell us even LAPD air support was grounded because of it. Flight tracker data shows Kobe's chopper appeared to first encounter weather issues as it was above the L.A. Zoo. It circled that area at least 6 times at a very low altitude -- around 875 feet -- perhaps waiting for the fog to clear.
We know the pilot contacted the control tower at Burbank Airport around 9:30 AM PT, and the tower was aware the pilot had been circling for about 15 minutes. The pilot eventually headed north along the 118 freeway before turning to the west, and started following above the 101 freeway around Woodland Hills, CA.
At around 9:40 AM they encounter more weather -- as in seriously heavy fog -- and the chopper turned south. This was critical, because they turned toward a mountainous area. The pilot suddenly and rapidly climbed from about 1200 feet up to 2000 feet.
However, moments later -- around 9:45 AM -- they flew into a mountain at 1700 feet. Flight tracker data shows they were flying at about 161 knots.
(That is almost 200 miles a hour).
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:36 am to Street Hawk
What is vertigo?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:37 am to Street Hawk
Damn man, very avoidable tragedy
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:37 am to Street Hawk
Damn. Pilot couldn't figure out what to do.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:38 am to Street Hawk
i'm sure this is an extremely ignorant question. but if the weather was that bad why take off? why not land and wait it out? instead of circling and taking some weird flight path?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:38 am to Street Hawk
frick riding in a helicopter man.
After this tragedy I refuse to step in one unless absolutely necessary.
After this tragedy I refuse to step in one unless absolutely necessary.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:39 am to Street Hawk
Seems like 160knots was a little excessive given the weather.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:40 am to Street Hawk
This makes it so much worse
So avoidable
So avoidable
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:40 am to Street Hawk
So basically NTSB will chock this up to pilot error.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:40 am to Street Hawk
quote:
weather was extremely foggy
quote:
seriously heavy fog
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:41 am to VolsOut4Harambe
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frick riding in a helicopter man.
You're gonna get all the idiots coming out telling you about driving vs helicopter and what's more dangerous. I'm sure statistics show walking down the road is more dangerous than skydiving, but I can tell you which one I'd prefer to do and which one I ain't doing. My arse isn't jumping out of a plane.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:41 am to Street Hawk
If you want to look on the bright side, slamming into the side of a mountain at that speed probably made it pretty quick way to go. Doubt they saw it coming
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:41 am to VolsOut4Harambe
quote:
frick riding in a helicopter man.
After this tragedy I refuse to step in one unless absolutely necessary.
I used to take one when I worked offshore. Not a fan.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:41 am to Street Hawk
This may have been answered, but I haven't been reading everything on this deal. Did he regularly use a helicopter just to travel across town?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:41 am to Street Hawk
It’s was circling because the ATC didn’t clear them to fly yet
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:42 am to VolsOut4Harambe
small planes and helicopters are death traps.
flying commercial is extremely safe because airlines don't want to be liable for hundreds of deaths, so they put their planes and pilots through the wringer to make sure that if an accident happens, it was mostly unavoidable.
this is some random dude (with training) flying a luxury helicopter in dense fog.
flying commercial is extremely safe because airlines don't want to be liable for hundreds of deaths, so they put their planes and pilots through the wringer to make sure that if an accident happens, it was mostly unavoidable.
this is some random dude (with training) flying a luxury helicopter in dense fog.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:43 am to Street Hawk
Just seems like he could have climbed to above the fog. Maybe that wasn't an option due to the proximity of LAX and jetliners
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:43 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Yes, since his playing days.
Did he regularly use a helicopter just to travel across town?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:43 am to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
Be real. this wasn't some Random dude. You think a man worth 500 million isn't going to have one of the best of the best private pilots.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:43 am to Klark Kent
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if the weather was that bad why take off?
The airport probably was not grounding people. So pilots discretion. Rich client/clients? Forgot important rule. “Better to be on the ground wishing you were flying, than flying and wishing you were on the ground. “
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