re: If you're afraid for your life at a restaurant, do you stop to pay the tab?

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At any rate, I've said all I have to say on the subject and would just be repeating myself from here on out. Going to lunch.

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thanks for ignoring 90% of my questions

I'm not trying to say they are equivalently dangerous. One is more efficient for sure. What I'm trying to point out is that it takes an intent to want to kill for there to be an issue. And a gun being present doesn't automatically equate to someone wanting to kill.

If you knew someone was in the kitchen with a knife and they wanted to kill someone, then I can see wanting to leave. But you don't make the assumption that there is someone with the intent to kill. But, if you know there is a gun present, somehow, you assume there is an intent.

ETA: I'm totally against open carry in general. But from a standpoint that it's completely useless and I realize there will always be those with opposing views who will be uncomfortable and cause a scene. In addition, if you really feel you need to carry for safety, concealing is only beneficial to you. A shooter is going to target you first if you have a big shiny gun on your hip. Just wanted to clarify that I'm not some pro open carry gun nut who gets his jollies flexing his 2nd amendment right. I just think being scared of a person purely because they have a gun in a holster is goofy.

Once again, liberals an't win at the ballot box, or in court so now they will throw their little temper tantrums like the spoiled children they are.

The good news is people are really tired of their bullshite and it is back firing in big ways...

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It is a legitimate fear to you.

But not to me.

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Honest question, if a middle eastern guy or a typical nola thug walks into a restaurant carrying an ar-15, you wouldn't get a little nervous?

As LucasP said, both of the arguments are kind of ridiculous. I would not run out on a tab/break the law to try to prove a point, but I am also not eating somewhere attention whores are carrying long guns just because they can.

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Honest question, if a middle eastern guy or a typical nola thug walks into a restaurant carrying an ar-15, you wouldn't get a little nervous?

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absolutely I would

I would also get a little nervous if a white guy walked in

but me being nervous would not justify me not paying

So you will steal bases off the owners beliefs? Interesting

Bet you there's someone concealing where you go eat. Enjoy

well, he could opt to conceal it in a restaurant

but I'll bet you'd pay for his lunch if he takes out a dirtbag that exposes himself, now wouldn't you?!

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parading around with a loaded rifle (or even with an empty mag in place) to try to force people to deal with your, i don't know, gun-ness is alienating and counter-productive to the cause of preservation of gun rights.

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I keep seeing this sentiment posted and it seems some of you have failed to do any research to figure out the proper context. That's exactly like what Rex does, posts without much understanding. The OC events happened mostly in Texas as a response to a rather idiotic law that banned OC of handguns but allowed OC of long guns. Those open carriers did get the law changed though which was the main point.

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Why are we jumping to people with AR15's in a restaurant? It's not like open carry means that every redneck is going to bring every gun he owns to Golden Corral with him.

Louisiana is open carry and I can recall one time in my life seeing someone open carry in a Target.

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Alabama has been open carry for a few years now. I do see some guys open carrying from time to time. The last time was on a ride where I'd say probably close to a dozen or so were doing so. Not long before that I saw a guy I know in Huddle House with a 1911 on his hip. I've never seen anyone with a rifle though nor have I ever seen anyone open carrying doing anything that would cause concern.

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I'm more likely to be a shooting victim by the person with the gun.

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So you're assuming the guy carrying the gun knows you??