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re: HOA neighborhood, what can they do?

Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by warlock1974
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2015
1841 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:21 pm to
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Nothing, frick those frickers. See who can stand it the longest.


Bad advice there from someone with nothing to lose.

You, on the other hand, may have something to lose. When you moved into the neighborhood, you probably signed an agreement with the restrictions or requirements on things such as fences and what the HOA can do if you violate the agreement.

HOA agreements that I am familiar with grant the HOA the power to levy a fine and/or put a lien on the property.

I would suggest that you check the agreement and, if what I am saying applies to your case, remove the fence or move it in accordance with the agreement.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:21 pm to
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I'd hope would help you understand the flaw in your one-sided response/thinking.


I sold my house on the lake 2 summers ago after my son graduated from university. We bought a lot of land in the county.
My closest neighbor is over 1/2 mile away. My house sits 1/4 mile off the road. I have 140 acres on my right side, 25 behind me, and 25 on my left side.

I understand what you're saying. I said what I said because I understand. To each his/her own.
Posted by Benne Wafer
Member since Jan 2015
469 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:48 pm to
Lots of good advice in the thread already but the things that hold your answers are your HOA covenants and county deed restrictions/easements.

We have part of the neighborhood detention pond on a ten foot corner of our property and we can't put anything permanent within a certain distance because of the county-set easement. Even though the easement is set by the county, the HOA has a vested interest in making sure water management for the entire neighborhood isn't impacted by the actions of a homeowner. Our neighbor on the opposite side had to move trees they planted too close and the landscape people couldn't get their equipment through to take care of the common areas.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23313 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:53 pm to
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Weekly, there are stories posted about horrible HOA's


No, there aren't. There are stories of trashy assholes who bought into an HOA and seem surprised that there are rules against being trashy assholes.

This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 3:54 pm
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23541 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:54 pm to
In some HOAs, they will lynch you from the oak tree in your front yard and burn down your house.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16791 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 4:16 pm to
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Some are, some aren't. Regardless you're giving sovereignty of your private property to your neighbors.


You aren't giving anything. It already exists. Just like city codes, county codes, state law, and federal law. Depending on which state you live, you may have to meet far more of these codes/laws than in the rural areas, than people that live in HOAs in other states. Irrational hate for all HOAs when not all covenants and boards are equal is just dumb given that situation. You may be far less restricted in one than living in another location in a rural area.

Then you have eminent domain. This country is only expanding, you just have to be lucky and not see it happen to your area in your lifetime if you are in a rural area.

We need to build a new water plant, combined cycle plant, factory, or run a high voltage line and guess what, your farm is in the way. See how well that it's my private property even though I'm not in an HOA lasts in the face of the government that has the power to strip land from you for commercial purposes now.

It's all the same shite, you just rent what you got and hope the rules don't change while you are alive.
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Benne Wafer
Member since Jan 2015
469 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 4:25 pm to
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No, there aren't. There are stories of trashy a-holes who bought into an HOA and seem surprised that there are rules against being trashy a-holes.

That has been my experience. Not trashy, per se, just that people are blinded by the house and don't take in the full picture.

We have friends who bought into a very exclusive neighborhood a couple of years ago and didn't read the covenants until after they closed. They also didn't know how much the HOA fees were. Now they are on the HOAs are evil train because they can't do anything to their property and their HOA fees have been raised every meeting and is now sitting at $4,000/yr. That isn't an evil HOA, that was them not doing their due diligence before buying the house.

We've bought into a couple of HOA neighborhoods and have had zero issues because we requested and read the covenants before making an offer. There were a few houses we crossed off our list because we didn't agree with the covenants. It isn't hard to avoid.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 4:28 pm to
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You aren't giving anything


Sure you are. If you're buying into property with a strong HOA, you're ceding property rights.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19880 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 4:33 pm to
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Sure you are. If you're buying into property with a strong HOA, you're ceding property rights


Not really considering you had zero rights to that piece of property before you bought it
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 4:41 pm to
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Not really considering you had zero rights to that piece of property before you bought it


Without an HOA would you have property rights?

When you sign the line, you cede all rights.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 4:58 pm to
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Without an HOA would you have property rights?

There are still many city codes and ordinances you have to abide by that you are ceding those rights to with your property, with or without an HOA.

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When you sign the line, you cede all rights.

This is factually incorrect.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 5:04 pm to
Did they say you have to move it by a certain time? If not, don't do anything. See how far they are willing to go..
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 5:04 pm to
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There are still many city codes and ordinances you have to abide by that you are ceding those rights to with your property, with or without an HOA.


True.

An HOA is just another layer of legality that interferes with you're right to do a show you wish to your property

Which is the main argument against the more restrictive HOAs

I certainly think there are decent ones. Neighborhoods that have common areas and the like.



Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16791 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 5:18 pm to
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Sure you are. If you're buying into property with a strong HOA, you're ceding property rights.


You aren't ceding anything, that property already has those strings attached to it. You are buying it with those stipulations in place. Just as you would with any city/county/state/federal code/law when you purchase. You are not losing anything as you never had it in the first place, you are just agreeing to the terms of ownership of the property. The property developer that created the subdivision/HOA is the one that decided it at first and then the HOA board adds to it after development is complete.

If you are annexed on the other hand, you have to cede those rights. If a new code/law is enacted, you have to give up rights as well.

This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 5:33 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 6:16 pm to
HOA neighborhood, what can they do?

make every day of your life a living hell

you will feel like you are living at home with mom and dad as you must get permission on what you can and cant do to your own house and yard.

they can force you to plant trees or cut trees down solely based on "their" opinion and not yours.

they control everything from what color your house can be painted to which mail box you can have as well as how old a car you can have parked in the driveway.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 6:32 pm to
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make every day of your life a living hell
A shitty neighbor and no HOA can do the same.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 6:36 pm to
The HOA isn't always right, but I'm always amazed at stories of people who spent several thousand on a project without bothering to check with the Board to see if they'd object.
Posted by SaintNation
West Monroe
Member since Dec 2008
2008 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 10:22 pm to
Thank you all for your responses. A couple of things to clear up. I did put the correct style fence up that meets the covenants. The HOA is their neighborhood is run solely by the developer even after 15 years later and he does not own any of the properties. The HOA states he has 51% control for 20 years after they were drawn up so there is no homeowner representation.

I moved into the neighborhood and never received, signed off or was given any information on who to contact to even get a question answered.

The property the fence is on is not community property. It is owned by me. I actually own about 20 feet into the pond. The “servitude” is there so they have access to the pond for maintenance.

There are at least 20-30 violations in which they do not bother people on. The homeowner across my pond has the same exact fence to the water like mine and has had it for 2 years without anything from the HOA. He got a letter when I did as well.

Lastly I have a dog and a neighbor who is a nutcase and bitched that i didn’t have a fence. Therefore i put the fence to the pond so he can not get out of the yard.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
7240 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 10:46 pm to
Contact an attorney to discuss. There are rules and laws governing HOA's.
Posted by Purple Watermelon
Member since Nov 2018
90 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:07 pm to
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I have the fence too close to the water


Don't move the fence. Just drain some water from the pond.
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