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re: HOA neighborhood, what can they do?

Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:31 pm to
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:31 pm to
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PS: I’ll be in the house for 30 years +


Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:39 pm to
Why do people agree to live in a HOA neighborhood and then complain about the HOA enforcing its rules?


I love my HOA. Keeps what trash that does move in from wrecking my property values.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:54 pm to
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The lack of self awareness on your part is truly, truly astonishing


He does this on a daily basis on this board. It's really sad. He is one of the most close minded individuals here, and really believes his opinions are absolute fact.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 12:02 am to
I get that there are lots of things the HOA did not act on the way a reasonable person would expect.

But that isn't important. What matters is what the HOA thought about your project, and you could have cleared that up ahead of time.

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The property the fence is on is not community property. It is owned by me.


If you can prove this by survey, you might well win in court. Give it a shot.

In fact, if you have a nutcase neighbor probably a good strategy would have been to tell said neighbor to complain to the HOA. Then the board might have been more sympathetic.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52614 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 12:40 am to
I have become somewhat if an expert on HOA's. First, to the fact that the developer is still in charge. There should be a document that spells out exactly when his control goes to the HOA and not him. In mine, it was when all the lots were 90+ sold.

Also, there should be an architectural review committee that should receive your request and detail on the fence. In addition, fences should be spelled out as to what is or isn't acceptable. Any fines, how those are submitted, your rights to appeal, when you get approval if they don't act in a certain number of days.... All these should be clearly spelled out. If not, it is simple conjecture and the opinion of the developer is just that: his opinion neans squat if not backed up with facts in your Terms and Conditions.

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Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63270 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:09 am to
As the others say, a HOA is a very powerful entity...do yourself a favor and start making plans to move your fence.
Posted by LeroyBrown
South Side Of Chicago
Member since Jul 2017
588 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:40 am to
F them. Build a wall instead, and make them pay for it.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32319 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:55 am to
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Some are, some aren’t


I can personally attest to that. Lived in an older neighborhood for years, well kept, zero issues and dues were extremely modest (just to maintain the lakes). But....I own property in a gated community where one of Baton Rouge’s biggest shysters has taken over the HOA, and it is a nightmare. He totally destroyed the road with heavy equipment building his second MacMansion and now expects all the other property owners to replace the road. Oh, and he owns a number of other lots in the development and exempted his lots from paying the special assessment. Yeah, he’d like to help.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35655 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:07 am to
funny some of ya'll are bashing HOA's but the most expensive neighborhood to live in in LA if not the entire gulf coast - has the most restrictive covenants around.....


Audubon Place..
Posted by Benne Wafer
Member since Jan 2015
469 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:25 am to
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I moved into the neighborhood and never received, signed off or was given any information on who to contact to even get a question answered.

How have you paid your HOA dues? They have not held an annual meeting (which is usually required by the covenants)?

Did you get a copy of the covenants at your closing? Ours have plainly laid out the process of getting something approved. Just because we deemed our improvements to be in compliance doesn't mean we could eschew the approval process.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 8:28 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49577 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:30 am to
You agreed to the HOA. Failing to follow the agreement is technically a breach of
Contract.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:30 am to
I don't why so many people are slaves to HOAs.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52614 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:33 am to
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I don't KNOW why so many people are slaves to HOAs.
FIFY

HOA's are like the neighborhood bully. You have to be willing to hit back hard, and then they leave you alone.

Mine got pissed because I put an antenna on my roof. It was against the covenants, but the covenants were in violation of federal law. I kept telling them to leave me alone about it, but they pushed forward with a daily fine of $75 a day until I would take it down. I let them do this, refused, citing that it was against federal law by certified mail, which I had notarized for validation. They pushed forward, and even sent a notice out to the entire HOA community threatening similar action against anyone else that dared to do this, mentioning me by name and my property address.

When I finally had accrued almost $7000 in fines, they sent me a certified demand letter citing that I had 10 days to pay or a lein would be placed on my house. I replied back by certified mail that they did so at their own peril.

In 11 days, a lein was filed on my house, and so I then went to my attorney, who had been advising me all along, and gave him the go-ahead to file suit against the HOA, citing the filing of a malicious lein, slander and violation of federal law in regards to the antenna. I initially sued for $500k.

Once served, they finally got it. They had been acting all on their own, with no legal counsel, and I forced them to pay an attorney to tell them they fricked up. They settled with me for $75k and attorney's fees.

A few years later, they tried to pass a change to the bylaws without a meeting notice, a quorum or a vote of the homeowners per the existing requirements. All it took was the mere threat that I would sue them if they didn't rescind what they did illegally, and they corrected themselves.

Know the law, know your CC&R's, and stand up to these bullies.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38410 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:53 am to
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If I refuse to move it does anyone know what they can do?


They can be real pains in the arse. Check your HOA agreement, yo may find that there is something of a quiet servitude in that regard
Posted by TDlurker
Member since Oct 2007
690 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:07 pm to
Sounds like the developer has plans to make money off the pond some kind of way, and needs to get rid of the fences to make room. I'm guessing his plans are not good news for you.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:12 pm to
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actually own about 20 feet into the pond. The “servitude” is there so they have access to the pond for maintenance.



If its just the servitude that is of issue here. Just add a gate for the required width of servitude.

I have a 10ft right of access in the back of my yard to a nature preserve behind my house. The neighborhood will never use it because of several reasons. But my fence builder just put a 12ft gate on one side(Which works great so I can pull truck up to unload big shite) then we have a removable panel on the other side.
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