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Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:55 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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depends if you're getting paid by the hour or not
No. This why everyone is burnt out and miserable. (American) Society needs to come around on this. It’s okay to get sick. It’s okay to take time off.
It’s not like we’re Europeans who get/take months off at a time.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 9:56 am
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:55 am to Jenious
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Do you answer emails/texts/calls on vacation?
Every other night I look at my email to clean out junk or the 100 messages I'm CC'd on that I don't need to be CC'd on. That way I'm not coming back to an overloaded inbox.
Calls I don't answer but follow up with a text stating I'm on vacation, ask so and so. Same for texts.
I work for an engineering/construction company so the office knows when I'm out, but none of the field staff do.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:55 am to Jenious
If it's something I can handle in a quick message / text, at the time of my choosing, I'm ok with it.
But many times, it will require me to look at a file or something I don't have access to (I don't bring my laptop on vacation with me) so I will just respond with that info and tell them if they need me to do it, it will be done when I return.
But many times, it will require me to look at a file or something I don't have access to (I don't bring my laptop on vacation with me) so I will just respond with that info and tell them if they need me to do it, it will be done when I return.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:55 am to tigersownall
On active deals, yes. Other crap, no.
Unfortunately it’s not realistic to have someone jump in on a deal I’ve been working on for a month.
I do as little as possible but as much as needed. The good part is that if things are quiet, we aren’t expected to just clock time. I’ve had plenty of random days where I don’t do much of any work. Granted, vacations are different, as you spent a bunch of money to go somewhere
Unfortunately it’s not realistic to have someone jump in on a deal I’ve been working on for a month.
I do as little as possible but as much as needed. The good part is that if things are quiet, we aren’t expected to just clock time. I’ve had plenty of random days where I don’t do much of any work. Granted, vacations are different, as you spent a bunch of money to go somewhere
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:55 am to LATECHgradLSUfan
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set expectations before you leave and leave the phone off..
Or make arrangements with others to be contacted before you leave and let others know.
If you leave people at work with dead ends, youre the problem.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Hourly or professional?
Hourly? Tell work to frick off
Professional? Hande your business.
This
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:56 am to Jenious
There is a difference in dealing with something that came up and people contacting you like normal. If there is a quick question I can answer or a quick email I can send it's no problem. I also like the place I work and it's not a big deal to me.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:56 am to Jenious
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I have a co-worker who' currently on vacation with his family and apparently he'd being bombarded with text messages/emails. I just overheard him telling one of the managers(VERY loudly) that he would like to be able to enjoy his much needed vacation.
What's the OT's take on this? Do you answer emails/texts/calls on vacation?
If I'm not at work, and I didn't frick up anything before I left work, then I tell work to frick off.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:56 am to Jenious
I think it depends on the job/profession/role
For places where you have set off dates and accrued time for them, yes, I'd be miffed if I was getting perpetually hit up while out. If I'm expected to be in the office or on the clock or whatever for a designated period without flexibility, then I'd want the inverse of that on PTO.
We don't have accrued PTO or sick days or whatever, you just plan ahead and let a few folks know and go. It's pretty common that unless you're on your honeymoon or something, you check in, do a few things here or there, whatever. I'm fine with it as it gives me much more flexibility and I don't really ever have to account to anyone.
For places where you have set off dates and accrued time for them, yes, I'd be miffed if I was getting perpetually hit up while out. If I'm expected to be in the office or on the clock or whatever for a designated period without flexibility, then I'd want the inverse of that on PTO.
We don't have accrued PTO or sick days or whatever, you just plan ahead and let a few folks know and go. It's pretty common that unless you're on your honeymoon or something, you check in, do a few things here or there, whatever. I'm fine with it as it gives me much more flexibility and I don't really ever have to account to anyone.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:57 am to Jenious
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I have a co-worker who' currently on vacation with his family and apparently he'd being bombarded with text messages/emails. I just overheard him telling one of the managers(VERY loudly) that he would like to be able to enjoy his much needed vacation.
What's the OT's take on this? Do you answer emails/texts/calls on vacation?
true vacation...yea im not answering shite.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:57 am to LATECHgradLSUfan
If you are a high end executive, then yes you take calls/emails. Then you delegate appropriately.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:58 am to Jenious
When I went to Disney with the fam a few years ago, I left my phone in the RV. We got back around 4pm and I had 28 missed calls from work. All because the internet went out and they had no clue what to do.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:58 am to Dizz
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If there is a quick question I can answer or a quick email I can send it's no problem.
Your brain and subconscious need breaks baw.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:59 am to Jenious
Depends on the job/profession, how you feel about the company, and the company's structure.
If you are a supervisor/middle manager in a hierarchy structure, things should be in place to allow the group to function for a short time without you. Someone on your team can make a certain level decision.
If you are a CEO, only have to take the most important of phone calls. Subs should be able to handle day to day things.
Sales is non stop. I don't envy sales people.
Too many variable to make an absolute on PTO.
If you are a supervisor/middle manager in a hierarchy structure, things should be in place to allow the group to function for a short time without you. Someone on your team can make a certain level decision.
If you are a CEO, only have to take the most important of phone calls. Subs should be able to handle day to day things.
Sales is non stop. I don't envy sales people.
Too many variable to make an absolute on PTO.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:00 am to Jenious
My vacation days are really only partial days. At a certain point in the organizational food chain you have to be available. The decision I make and those that need my input don’t stop just because I’m on vacation.
I would say on average, I work maybe 2 hours a day when on vacation.
I would say on average, I work maybe 2 hours a day when on vacation.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:00 am to SaintEB
quote:but that's no fun
Too many variable to make an absolute on PTO.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:00 am to Bruco
Working in management consulting, 99% of client requests can wait a few days with no impact, but if a private equity client is working on a live deal, your vacation isn't relevant to the diligence schedule and I do end up working.
This is one of the negatives of "unlimited" PTO.
This is one of the negatives of "unlimited" PTO.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:00 am to Jenious
If you're corresponding to work shite, you're not on vacation.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:02 am to Lake08
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If you are a high end executive,
You've been duped
Outside of real emergencies, those in executive leadership positions with a healthy organization structure do not need to reply, respond or deal with daily minutia while on vacation, taking time off, etc.
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